075. Mastering Your Mind: Is Your Inner Voice Friend or Foe in Personal Growth? – Be Relentless
In today’s Thought Expedition, we delve into Brandon’s journey after being excommunicated from Forge 2 and forced to confront his doubts and fears to earn his way back through a tailor-made reentry contribution composed of a 10-mile bike ride and 200 over-the-head sandbag throws.
- How to take control of our inner voice.
- How to reprogram your subconscious through extreme difficulty.
- Surpassing our self-imposed boundaries.
- How actions and experiences shape our self-perception and mental strength.
- The price we pay for every choice we make and its implications on personal development and our lives.
- Recognizing that growth is iterative and the journey towards mental strength is never truly finished.
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Jon Mayo: 0:08
Welcome to this week’s Thought Expedition on the Be Relentless podcast. Last week, we talked a lot about overcoming our personal demons and beginning to rewrite who we are. Well, this week we talked about reprogramming our subconscious through extreme difficulty, and that puts into clear perspective the true opportunity and regret costs that the decisions we make enact upon us as we walk through this life and choose the things that we want, whether it be comfort or difficulty, whether it be unintentionally walking through the day, pursuing pleasure or pursuing a high and difficult to attain ideal. And all of that stems from Brandon’s excommunication from Forge 2 and the liberate, aggressive voice to pursue re-entrance and then subsequently secure it within 24 hours, which is a great story in and of itself. So, with all that in mind, let’s jump right in. Oh snap, hold the phone. I promised you guys some more information on a couple of things, so you’ve already heard me time and time again and you’re not going to stop. If you’ve not tried CC Stamina, we now have the free sample packs. Head over to yulayuniversecom Be relentless to support the show and save 10% so that you can experience performance evolved. With that being said, I also mentioned last week Ironfront Solutions, which is my consulting firm that I just launched, based upon the Strive methodology, and at Ironfront we help activate your vision through decisive action. So if you’re interested and would like to learn more, I highly encourage that you go to ironfrontsolutionscom and I’ll see you there. All right back to the show. So today’s thought expedition is a little bit special because or a little bit different, and we don’t have strict functions, but we pivot to what the needs of the conversation are Right, and a couple of times now we’ve talked about the FORGE Initiative and in the near future, sub 60 days I’ll have Tim Myers on, who is the growth director for the FORGE Initiative, who’s joined me in helping to create and bring what the FORGE is and does to more people, so that I can serve more people and so that we can grow a larger community that cares for one another, which is really exciting, and I can’t wait to have them on so that we can engage in that conversation With that in mind. You were actually excommunicated from your FORGE in the last week and subsequently requested to earn your way back in, and did provide the contribution to earn your way back in, and, given that you had mentioned to me that you would love to explore that on today’s thought expedition, what the experience was like, what importance it or meaning it had to you and everything else such that you’re like hey, can we talk about it? So that’s why I’m kicking us off today, so that we can dive right into you, know what was on your mind and explore it from there.
Brandon Seifert: 3:40
Right, yeah, so I don’t think too much context is needed. I just had a lapse of discipline that basically had me fall asleep before I got the requirements done to maintain my group status, woke up at four o’clock the next morning, immediately texted the group leader and said I screwed up and that I went back in. So just let me know what I needed to do. But that was the first thing that popped in my head. Right when I woke up I was like Whoa, it’s really dark in here, man, that’s not good. But the, the re-initiation fee was, is a, it’s a workout and then it’s also a group decision. So you do the workout and then the group decides if you’re welcome back in. And I was lucky enough that the group did welcome me back in. But my initiation fee is a 10 mile bike ride and then 200 over the head sandbag throws, so tossing it over my head, and that sandbag weighs 150 pounds. So it’s not necessarily like light and I’ve also I thought I’ve done like 30 in one go. No, I apparently lied to myself because that thing I got to 25 and I was dying. But the, the entire thing was just kind of screwy the entire way and it had me doubting my entire existence. So I just wanted to go through it. So woke up that morning, decided to knock out the bike right away. I was like that’s the easy part, I know the other parts going to suck. So I go there, I get six miles in I believe it was six miles, no, it was four, four and a half and the screen turns off before I can like get to the 10. So I’m like, all right, well, this sucks. I guess I got to start over. So I start going again on the same bike. The screen comes back on for for whatever reason, and I go another 1.25 miles and then I say, no, this is stupid, why am I still on this faulty machine? So I get off and I restart on a different machine. All to say that, I texted or messaged the group and they said that it was fine to take the progress because I’ve always shown high integrity, and they allowed me to just continue with the rest of the, the workout, after I finished the remainder of that progress. So thank God my group is so nice because if I did an extra 10 miles on top of that, I don’t know if I could. I could do it. I would just probably cry a little bit faster with the next portion. So I go home, get the sandbag, do about 25, and then I have like this existential crisis moment, freaking out about life, tears, everything, and I’m like man, I am like 12% of the way done. This sucks. I hate myself, hate life, I hate this sandbag, I hate these life. It’s not bright enough in here, there’s not enough wind. It’s like I just start hating everything around me and so I just had to double down. And so I tried double down, doubling down until I got to about 50. And then that’s when, like I really I was quitting in my mind at that point, and so at that point it took about like four minutes before or between each sandbag throw. I was like dude, this is going to take me all day. And it did until I got to about 100, because that’s when the fatigue finally hit in and I started to stop thinking. But the entire time and the reason I’m going through this is because the entire time, from about 25 in to 100, I had to listen to myself, try to quit. For the next hour and a half, like, between that time and overall time progress wise, actually, that was about two hours worth because I finished the last 100 faster than I did the first 100. Because of that voice the entire time. Once I hit that first 25, I had that extreme negative focus and I thought that I like I had a message I didn’t tell Tim with this, but I had a message ready for him in signal and after I hit about 27, I was ready to say hey man, I can’t do this, like I can’t get it over my head. You know, is there something else I can do? Blah, blah, blah. Like I was fully prepared to send that, but then I took it one throw at a time, literally, and like I was like all right, I’ll send it after this next one, I’ll send it after this next one, this one sucked, but I’ll send it after the next one. And like I just kept doing that and I guess where I’m going with this is like I didn’t understand how much further I could give, because I’ve always allowed that screaming negative self-talk to tell me what I’m capable of. Once I hit that 100, like I said, the fatigue started to hit me and I got to about 150 with that, where all I just kept saying was I’m halfway done, I’m so close. Once I hit 150, then all I kept saying, without sounding too inappropriate, was I’m so close, I don’t want to be a failure anymore. That said, went on repeat. Then I actually found this app in between the last 50 sets that set a timer. I had a minute on, a minute off. Then, even though I was only doing one overhead for the past minute, I decided to start pushing out the three. I went way beyond what I thought I had from that first 25. Now I’m at 150 and now I’m pumping out more quantity-wise than I did when I first started. That’s because I was able to just shut the F up and just do what was necessary. I’ve never had a moment like that. I was wondering if you had a moment where you remember one of the first times that you overcame an obstacle like that, where you just had to buckle down. I know you’ve had these moments, but do you remember one of the first ones that shifted that mindset to say I can just be productive here and I can just shut up and I can just do it? Because that’s exactly what happened to me and it was a very powerful moment for me.
Jon Mayo: 11:26
Yes, first of all, how exciting man Now stinking exciting and cool. Congratulations on discovering that element of yourself, because it truly is perspective shifting. Before I respond to your question, it is so critically important for what the forge can be to be successful. I just address a couple of things really swiftly and then we’ll continue exploring. But one decision that was made is Tim for Forge 2, myself for Forge 1, and then, as the forges scale, we actually put away with the concept of calling them the group leader, the forge leader, and instead it’s the forge facilitator. The reason why that distinction is so important is because these groups are fellowships of free men who are coming together as part of a whole human project to pursue their ideal self, the highest version of themselves, so that they can be better men, better husbands, fathers, community leaders, friends across that spectrum, and because we’re physical creatures by nature. The simplest act of sovereignty that I could think of on a daily basis is the contribution of physical training, where we’re showing dominion of our mind over our body to aimed at what we want to become right, which is why the physical element is important, and in that we have conversations that sped everything from depression to pain, to love, to being uncomfortable about certain circumstances. You know the vulnerability and value that’s creating the group spans Just these groups span just about every topic as we journey together to find peace in this life and create a life worth living right. And that excuse me, that really is what the forge is about. And you know, with the excommunication right, having that high standard and protecting it, is so important to protect the trust that everyone is showing one another right and to uphold that bar for us to strive to overcome. And you know you’re talking about the elements of it. It’s really three parts and you captured it and how you described it. But there’s the re-entrance fee right, which is a contribution which is designed uniquely to the individual and it’s meant to take hours and it’s meant to be brutal and it’s meant to evoke the types of conversations that you just shared. And there’s also an element of reflection and vulnerable communication on why would you subject yourself to this, why do you want to continue with the group and conversation with the group accordingly, right, with your friends who are like, becoming very close as you journey together. And then the final part I realized in listening to you because the forge agrees upon the contribution prior to it being sent to the in this instance you. I think that, rather than a vote, a better word that we’ll use moving forward is it’s final confirmation, right, if there are any concerns, if there are any anything crazy like that, any questions, any things, it could be a stove shopper and that conversation will still occur. But less than like just a outright vote, it’s like, okay, the requirement was set, you just did what you did. You’ve communicated what you’ve communicated, like speak now or forever, hold your peace, and if you have nothing to say that’s negative, then affirm your friend and, letting him rejoin the forge, affirm him, bring him back, confirm it right, so that that way it’s also like I’ve heard, yes, from every guy here who’s becoming like a brother to me, that they want me back in, and that’s, I think, also important as we learn to better love one another and better love ourselves in this life, to have that positive confirmation coming back in. So just a couple of elements there, structurally, but once again super exciting and well freaking done. There does come a time where you just have to tell that voice to shut the fuck up and you start putting in the work, right, right. Both Goggins and Derren Terry would be proud and excited by what you did there. So how fun to answer your question on moments for me that stand out in my mind. Two really short stories that do stand out, and I’m not trying to be comprehensive, just the two that came first to mind. One was during physical training I was in college. I was doing a workout called Cal-Sue and I know for a fact this wasn’t the first time, but it was one of the more prominent ones and, like as a sophomore in college I think and this workout is very simple, and the simpler the workout, the scarier it is. It was every minute on the minute. There’s a CrossFit Hero workout. Every minute on the minute you’re supposed to do something like a 135 pound cleaning thruster from the ground and do as many of those you could for the minute and then, when you’re done, you had to do like three burpees or something. So some combination of as many thrusters as you could do and then as many like three burpees or something like that, Every minute on the minute until you do 100 of the cleaning thrusters. And I did it the first time I did it. It was in the afternoon and I got to 50 man and I folded Like I was dying at 25. I was like, okay, I’m gonna get to 50 and figure out what the hell is happening to me. It crushed me. And then I got to 50 and I stopped and about an hour later I was so angry with myself for stopping. I was so outraged, drab and quit. I wrote stupid bitch on my hands so I have to look at, or no, I think it was shut up. Bitch on my hands so I’d have to just look at that reminder on my hands which would be grabbing the bar to just shut the fuck up and do exactly what you did, which is the work right? So the next morning, at like five in the morning, I went out and I did it again and that time I finished it and it sucked. And with that and with cross country and with some other things, that’s where, like this is a skill set that’s forged and it’s only as sharp as the last time you chose to succumb to the voice or overcome it, but you do get to remember overcoming it. And then the other one is not fitness related. The other one Jeremiah had just been born. I was doing I think it was 19 or 21 credit hours at university and I was still in RTC and had requirements to that. So I was sleeping between two and four hours a night, broken because Jeremiah wake up and I’d help Lindsay in. So it wasn’t like even a two to four hour consistent block, it’d be like broken. So essentially napping and hard training, lots of academic work, it was just a really grinded out type of time. And Jeremiah was colicky and it was hot and it was in the afternoon and he was just screaming his little head off. He’s just a couple, he’s like a couple months old and it broke me, dude. I was afraid I was gonna lose my temper so I just sat down on the ground. I sat him next to me because I was afraid I was gonna shake him or something Like I just knew that I was not good. I just sat him next to me and he’s crying next to me. I just put my hands, my head in my hands and I don’t even remember if I cried. I don’t know what happened. I just know that like I rebooted my body, my brain, everything shut down and I had no like what was my choice? Right, I quit and this child gets hurt, or I quit and I’m gets neglected like fuck off. So I regathered myself, I allowed myself to go through that reboot, I took some deep breaths and then, within a minute or two, I picked him back up and pressed in and about 15 minutes later he stopped crying, if I remember correctly. And that was a challenging moment, right, especially at my age and with the other requirements and with him it was like this collective, just a beautiful opportunity to grow. And those are the two, the two that come to mind that correlate to what you just expressed.
Brandon Seifert: 20:27
To you. Do you think it gets like a, like it’s a faster response to be able to turn off that negative brain?
Jon Mayo: 20:38
To that? Yes, because it’s all a matter of awareness, right, realize like that voice will start to peak in and you don’t even realize you’re dealing with it for a while. But I think the goal is just to have that moment of awareness as soon as possible, which is like a subconscious response that you do train iteratively, and as soon as you recognize, oh, I’m wanting to quit right. And as soon as you have that like I statement, not like which is distinctly different in experience than I feel like quitting right or like quit, just quit Right. As soon as that recognition comes, like, oh, this is what’s happening right, which is kind of that light bulb moment, that’s when the game can shift. And that does happen earlier and earlier. Yesterday, grace came over, as he often, as he does on Wednesdays, and we trained and I was like, hey, let’s do five by 30 seconds on the assault bike, max effort, and we’ll just switch each other’s time off. And like our slowest ones were above the average, slowest ones were above 85 RPMs for the 30 seconds and our fastest ones were above 95. And I would be lying if I did not say it absolutely torched us, right that we do a lot of hit training and different things, but we haven’t done like 30 second max efforts by five on the assault bike and it was brutal. By the second one I realized, oh, I don’t want to do this. And what’s nice is, once you’ve developed the response and the habit, as soon as you’ve realized, oh, this is what’s happening, I don’t want to do this, this sucks, I want to quit, it becomes like a you have the option to hit the switch. And in those moments specifically, I love the Goggins approach because it’s not like, oh, you can do it. It’s literally like I mean, you are miserable, you are suffering. So it seems to me an appropriate response to be kind of brutal, you know, a little bit hardcore. So in that moment it’s like, oh, this is what’s happening, shut the fuck up, bitch, get it done. You know like, get it done. And that’s exactly what happens. Oh, I’m in hell right now. Bippity, boopity, bop, get it done. And we got it done. So, yeah, I do think it gets a little simpler and it really just comes into if we look at it as a formula. Misery creates desire to quit. Right, that’s the stimulus and we just live. And then there’s the awareness. And once we have the awareness, what is our response? Right, so stimulus awareness response. And in looking at stimulus awareness response, that’s where we get to really choose and that’s where we can focus and say, okay, I want to become aware of the stimulus much sooner and almost like asking and meditating on that repetitively. Over time increases the swiftness with which we have that awareness Cause the subconscious. I was listening to Hubert Mann yesterday and he made a comment that in his most recent episode with Chris Voss and we’d have to go and listen to that to get all the facts again that essentially they’re beginning to understand that the frontal lobe is actually not the super computer of our brain, like it’s been attributed for quite a while, but it’s our subconscious which makes sense to me, and the bulk of the brain and the, the frontal cortex, is really just the application element but not the strength of the mind, and that correlates to this. Like, if we release something to our subconscious, I do think that our subconscious will trigger things more swiftly and identify patterns more swiftly, things like that. So I think it’s all about getting the awareness sooner and then choosing the response prior to being in the storm, right, and then it’s just stimulus awareness response and endure, and then, once it’s done, it’s done. But yeah, I do think it gets easier.
Brandon Seifert: 24:49
Well, thank God, I’m sure I messed it up, but there’s this quote that I remembered and it’s a. I tried writing it down and I wrote it down incorrectly, so let me rewrite it in my brain so it makes sense it’s not who you are that holds you back, it’s who you think you, who you think you’re not, you know. That strikes home to me because the entire time I was going through that myself, it was you know, I’m a failure, you know I can’t do this. Like I was saying what I am but I’m not the thing that I was not, you know. Like I wasn’t saying, like I’m strong enough to do this or anything else, like it was completely me defining what I am and that thing was bad and therefore that is the person that wanted me to stop. And so I don’t think there’s been a such a long, prolonged amount of time where I was forced to talk to myself If that makes sense like because that just the sandbags took me about three hours and 20 minutes, and that entire time I was forced to talk and sit with myself. Like I started playing music and I stopped and I was like no, because now I’m escaping through music, like it’s not making it easier. Now I’m actually going slower and so it’s prolonging my pain. So I turned off the music and then the voice was like oh hey, just so you know you suck, you’re a failure. But I think it’s very odd that at some point your brain just kind of clicks off and you’re like no, and then you just do the work and like for me, I actually created like a mantra, like you said, where I had to tell myself repeatedly I’m close and I don’t want to fail, but before, like when I first started, I didn’t have the capability of creating that. That saying that kept me going, which is, it’s kind of interesting that, like, my brain realized that it wasn’t gonna stop, like I wasn’t letting it, and so I was like all right, well, what do we do to continue to, you know, pushing forward?
Jon Mayo: 27:23
Yeah, the brain will find or create the path of least resistance to what it sees as the best outcome. So you know, at first that was quit, because when you quit the pain stops right, and that’s that reptilian response. And then, when you dominated that response and said no, there’s that moment of awareness on the subconscious level of oh, this isn’t gonna stop until the subjective is met. And then that same horsepower that’s trying to stop you and make you quit before shifts into becoming your, into helping you by focusing on okay, how the heck do we get through this as swiftly and pain-free as possible, right, as little cost as possible? So, but there’s no way to like gently make that shift. It’s like if you’re accustomed to not doing hard things, then the response will be quit until you prove through action that you’re not, and then it will adjust to okay, I have no choice but to do this. How do I do it? At the lowest cost possible, and then it works for you. Right, which is a little bit iterative, but it’s very important to like understand that, because it’s a critical element of the types of things that we’re working to do right and Getting to experience. That is a powerful step, you know, pulling from last week’s conversation. We were talking about the power of our words and everything else right the power of saying, proclaiming what you want to be and what you do as a proclamation, speaking into existence what your actions that day, to the best of your ability, will bring into fruition. Right, and starting with that morning exercise. And then the reason that personal contracts, in my mind, are so valuable and ought to have a difficult, very difficult physical component to them. And this is what I, you know I love about 75 Heart as well, which I’m so grateful I learned about that after I developed the idea of personal contracts, because otherwise I just have adopted 75 Heart and have developed the concept. But I think they complement each other. You can’t replicate what you have experienced and what we are discussing without the right contributing factors, and from what I’ve found, those contributing factors are physical pain, silence and time. So it’s like, okay, I want to be able to do hard things, put yourself in physical discomfort without distraction, for duration, for long durations of time, and the longer the duration, the more consistently, the more reward you’ll get in that pursuit. And for myself that was over a year of running over a 5k a day and lifting a lot of weight and doing a lot of other things, pretty unbroken. There’s a few gaps between contracts alone in the countryside out here, right, listen to the wind howling and moving and doing different mental exercises and wrestlings and things like that. And the taste you just experienced was doing the re-entrance contribution for the forge and like, once you taste it though, it’s like okay, this is absolutely replicable, 100%, you could do it every week, you can do it every day. You just have to define how much reward do you want from that exercise, based on how much value you got from that first taste. And with that, it’s like okay, and this is where the mood follows action. Right, this is where, over time, we can change the narrative, the our self-imposed narrative, how we see ourselves. We can change that through consistent action that demonstrates competence, that proves in reality what we really are, as opposed to the voices in our mind that may have a stronghold, and that’s the freedom that also comes from this. Right, it’s like okay, I saw that even my subconscious that typically makes me feel like a piece of shit and want to quit started working with me and for me to accomplish this when I went far enough. And in going far enough. The very part of me that’s trying typically to make me feel miserable and destroy myself became my advocate and I became a unified person in pursuit of this goal. I want that more and that’s who I want to be. It’s like, okay. Well, you have to put that part of yourself in the situation where it realizes the only way forward is through that pain and beginning to behave in this new way. And you do that once a week, every day, or once a week or every day, you know, for enough time, and it will absolutely forge a new version of yourself. And the more dedicated, the more frequent, the better, right? You know, derentair has been on be relentless a couple of times and leading up to him winning the Black Toe Run, which was that 40 hour ultra marathon where I think he did 108 miles, if I’m not mistaken, and won it it was the first year they did the 48 hour one. Leading up to that, he was running a marathon every day for a couple of months. Through the winter he would start at like two in the morning and everything about his life was focused around the pursuit of that goal. Right, the reason I think that he is as strong mentally as he is and as indomitable and relentless as he is, is that time he spent hammering it out on the road, day after day, with nothing but his own brain and just getting after it. It had like who he is, his subconscious. All of that had no choice but to evolve into this hardened instrument aimed at his desires. Right, and then he you know that consistency, right, and that is an extreme example. But it also produced an extreme result. Derent is an extreme hardcore human being. He is an uncommon amongst uncommon human being and you know, 10th of first percentile type of dude. And that comes at a price and there is no shortcut for that. But it is cool because it’s like oh, what a great conversation to have after last week’s Thought Expedition, because we talked about doing all these things and we discussed how and like. But this is pretty fuzz to how you experienced it.
Brandon Seifert: 34:33
Yeah, and also I like that you mentioned that because I haven’t thought about it yet where my subconscious actually started working for me at one point. I didn’t realize that, I only thought that I just kind of shut it off and things happened. But no like, because I did create that saying and I kept pushing forward in the back of my head. I said that I was so close I never realized that eventually my own brain did want to help because I realized there was no other way. So that’s another part that I like actually kind of puts the frosting on the cake. I thought it was just a moment where I realized that I could just get past the worst part of it, which was actually my own brain being the worst part of it, because, like, in the end, I was able to for the most part be quiet and just do it. The hardest part was when I was doing that first 25 to 100, where it just kept talking. That was the hardest part. But to know that also on the flip side it also helped me in the end, that’s actually really cool to think about. I didn’t see that. That’s actually puts a smile on my face.
Jon Mayo: 35:54
As it should, as it absolutely should In one other perspective on this, because yesterday no Monday I was doing a workout. It was a pretty brutal warm up, also Like heavy assault bike, not 30 seconds max effort but about a minute 90 seconds hard effort. Heavy like weighted jump rope, 60 pound dumbbell, waymakers and kettlebell swings, and on the waymaker portion I moved slow as molasses. I think I did seven in the thin, like very slow, very slow, Like while Gris did his kettlebell swings, and I just was thinking about had it been a rep based and then rest versus a time based until he’s done thing, Like had I had to do seven, then I could rest, I’d have probably done them in half the time. But because I was going until he was finished with his set, I was pacing myself out to the path of least resistance while still trying to push myself to keep moving. And this conversation’s reflection on that makes me kind of angry actually with myself. But it’s a reflection that this never goes away. It gets, and I actually was thinking about what I said earlier and I kind of I want to correct what I said it’s not that it gets easier, but it gets simpler, it becomes more recognizable, it becomes more familiar and it becomes simpler, but it’s always at a cost and it’s always difficult to do. I still think that’s good news, but it is important clarification.
Brandon Seifert: 37:38
But it’s necessary because you’re paying that price. You know anything that’s worth pursuing has a price to pay. You know even just the type of character or the physical beings that we want to be. You know to have that self integrity towards yourself, because I did the same thing within my like the first 25 to 100, I was just doing it, but when I got to the 150 mark I set that timer and I was much more effective because I realized I have to do these three within this minute and it’s like there’s no way of getting out of a defined goal within that defined goal. You know, and that greatly helped me. I love how there’s just so much more to analyze that I’m still putting in right now Like absolutely.
Jon Mayo: 38:33
And the oh, I don’t want to lease this, it just came back. Okay, you mentioned that anything worth pursuing has a price, right? I would suggest, or posit everything has a price period, period, Everything has a benefit, everything has a cost, and I would associate the cost with a regret, right? If you want to be comfortable and eat what you want, whatever that you know like, you just want to eat whatever. You want to just lounge around and watch Netflix and play video games and you want to be as comfortable as possible, that comes at a cost. You’re going to get fat, you’re going to become less capable, you’re going to not produce anything and it is highly likely that over time, you will become depressed and sad and your mind will weaken. Right? The price is that capability, that strength, that endurance, that vibrancy and well-being of life. At least you know, from my perspective, to have that comfort. It’s hard to, and that price is lived with daily. It’s hard to be overweight and out of shape and not capable and suffering from depression and weak minded. That’s difficult, right, and it’s also difficult to look yourself in the. It’s also beautifully difficult to look at yourself in the eye for over three hours while you’re enduring physical pain and reprogramming your subconscious to go from your adversary to your advocate. Right, and you know it goes back to the concept of you got to choose your heart. What benefits do you want in this life and what regrets do you want to live with? And based on those choices, your actions will follow. And you have to make that choice, sometimes 200 times, a thousand times in the course of a couple hours. And I think the treachery of say paying. The consequence of the ease is it feels easy, Like it’s not difficult to sit back and watch a show, it’s not difficult to eat precisely what you want, right, it doesn’t feel difficult. The difficulty creeps in and by the time that it grabs you and you may not be satisfied with where you are in your life and how you are and who you are, you have a long path and a big mountain to climb to get out of that hole. It’s like sitting in a kettle of water that’s slowly being boiled. You know the old frog in the kettle analogy. You don’t realize that it’s being a problem until it’s too late and the good news here is it’s not too late, hopefully, but you have a long ways to go, Whereas the path that we’re talking about here. With reprogramming your subconscious, it is immediately clear. It is immediately clear, very swiftly, what you’re going to have to pay to get to have the things you want. And, yeah, that just juxtaposition jumped into my mind and I’m so grateful, came back, Like my entire brain shut off for three minutes there until I came back. So it’s such a beautiful thing to get to pursue and do these things right, and I know that the rest of my day is set. If I put myself in a situation where I choose the hard right over the easy wrong right or the easy path, especially if I do it first in the morning, the rest of the day is set. Man, Like what is the day going to throw at me? That is going to be more challenging than every five of my being screaming quit and I say no, you know, and that builds emotional, relational fortitude, physical fortitude, a lot of things. So it is a gift and I’m grateful that you’re underway back in, I’m grateful that the forge is providing value and I’m excited for us to continue all the things that we’re doing. Thank you for joining us on Be Relentless. If you liked what you heard, please put it into action, and you can do that by either sharing this episode with someone you care about or leaving us a five star review. Every action you take helps us to grow and serve more people. Additionally, if you are a business owner or leader and you want to enact your vision through decisive action, go to ironfrontsolutionscom to learn how the strive methodology and our executive consultants can help you accomplish your dreams. Additionally, head on over to ulauniversecom to try CCU stamina today. Check out the book. Be Relentless If the Obstacles the Way. We Must Be Waymakers and learn about our vibrant, growing community. Thank you again for listening. Now let us forge forward.