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Episode 33 from The Grit Theory. Today Lindsey and I sit down with Marcus Watts and discuss how grit, personal ownership, and intentionality are critical to perfect execution. We also discuss the necessity to seek to gain understanding, before seeking to be understood and the power that comes from being a problem solver instead of a victim. Hold on to your seats, as this conversation is a blast.  Highlights include: -The goal is to over deliver.-Growing yourself as a person is nonnegotiable.-Intentional conversations are a choice.-Differences matter, personal ownership, and conversation on being Black or Brown in America.-Perfect Execution.-Don’t let someone else’s emotion move you.-Confidence is earned through well-honed competence.-People want to talk to be heard, instead be a problem solver.-To know and not act is to not care.To learn more about Marcus Watts and his work you can:Check out his website at: https://marcuswatts.comText “perfect” to 813-212-2315 and receive a copy of his ebook “Perfect Execution” for FREE!Or follow him on Instagram @thewattsguy and check out his podcast @thevegan.transitionIf you found value in the show please SHARE IT with someone you care about as well as SUBSCRIBE and RATE IT with a 5-Star Review! Ready to dive deeper? Visit ULAUniverse.com to explore more of the impactful work we're doing. Don't forget to use code 'BERELENTLESS' at checkout to enjoy a 10% discount sitewide!Do you have a question for us, want to be on the show, or have a recommendation for a guest or topic? CONTACT US HERE.We are grateful you joined us! Be Relentless is a Forge Publications LLC production and is proudly co-branded with the Universal Learning Approach. Copyright 2023. All Rights Reserved.

Episode 33 from The Grit Theory. 

Today Lindsey and I sit down with Marcus Watts and discuss how grit, personal ownership, and intentionality are critical to perfect execution. We also discuss the necessity to seek to gain understanding, before seeking to be understood and the power that comes from being a problem solver instead of a victim. Hold on to your seats, as this conversation is a blast.  

Highlights include: 

-The goal is to over deliver.

-Growing yourself as a person is nonnegotiable.

-Intentional conversations are a choice.

-Differences matter, personal ownership, and conversation on being Black or Brown in America.

-Perfect Execution.

-Don’t let someone else’s emotion move you.

-Confidence is earned through well-honed competence.

-People want to talk to be heard, instead be a problem solver.

-To know and not act is to not care.

To learn more about Marcus Watts and his work you can:

Check out his website at: https://marcuswatts.com

Text “perfect” to 813-212-2315 and receive a copy of his ebook “Perfect Execution” for FREE!

Or follow him on Instagram @thewattsguy and check out his podcast @thevegan.transition

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Episode Transcript

00;00;10;05 – 00;00;19;26

Jon

Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Great Theory. This is John Mayo. And today I’m joined by Lindsey Mayo and the one and only Marcus. Ah, what’s how are you doing today?

00;00;20;11 – 00;00;32;25

Marcus

I’m doing great. I’m really excited to be here. You know, it’s nice to like me to still virtually, you know what I mean? But we were on the phone and it was, you know, instantly like a really great connection. So, yeah, I’m really excited to to be here.

00;00;33;10 – 00;00;56;20

Jon

Yeah, this is good stuff, man. You know, kicking off, we were we’re starting to get too warmed up in our warm up conversation. Yeah, we were getting coffee, and there’s some funny things. A little bit of radical transparency for everyone, right? And, you know, we’re working through some changes at the group theory, one of which is training our for children how to self manage themselves for 2 hours while recording.

00;00;56;29 – 00;01;00;03

Lindsey

So meanwhile success takes in four.

00;01;00;03 – 00;01;03;15

Jon

So yeah Wow that’s beautiful.

00;01;03;15 – 00;01;05;21

Marcus

And terrifying also.

00;01;05;21 – 00;01;11;15

Lindsey

Yeah. So if I jump out, that’ll be why. Gotcha. Gotcha. But we’ll see how it goes.

00;01;11;23 – 00;01;16;08

Marcus

Like it’s like cats is like catching a baby with her leg. Like. Like it’s not like it’s nothing, you know?

00;01;17;08 – 00;01;17;29

Lindsey

Exactly.

00;01;18;06 – 00;01;24;19

Jon

Like. Like any good parents. We bribe them that if they do not interfere and they sell fried eggs, get them ice cream. So hopefully that.

00;01;24;20 – 00;01;29;22

Marcus

Yeah, I mean, listen, that’s high level. That’s high level. You know what I’m saying? Stuff, you know.

00;01;30;04 – 00;01;38;16

Jon

Yeah. Yeah. And you’re going to a little bit of fun stuff too. I know that you had to walk past some coffee grounds on your counter this morning, has it? Yes.

00;01;39;23 – 00;01;58;12

Marcus

Yeah. Yeah. So I was. So I got up today. It’s Saturday, we’re recording. I was up pretty late and then I got up me and my buddy. We go work out After we work out, we go do a little bit of cardio, just shooting some hoops around, which is nice for me because I shredded my knee up two years ago.

00;01;58;12 – 00;02;12;06

Marcus

I haven’t been able to touch a ball since, and so you know, rushing into the house, trying to everything together, quick shower, you know, what am I going to wear on the pie? You know, what am I going to do and clean it up a little bit. And then I just go to make coffee and I put the grinds.

00;02;12;13 – 00;02;32;00

Marcus

I put the beans in the grinder. But the top, for some reason, I never do this. I took I opened the container and put the top on the counter, I guess. So I put it on and literally I hear it and I thought it sounded different. And I was like, and literally like 10 seconds of coffee grinds just like, explode, you know, my counter and floor.

00;02;32;00 – 00;02;47;20

Marcus

And I was like, So I vacuum the floor. And what John’s making reference to is it was very hard for me to not, like, stop and like or ask for like 10 minutes or whatever, which you probably would have been okay with. But I don’t like doing that because I value your time so much. It’s not your fault.

00;02;47;20 – 00;03;09;15

Marcus

That’s my fault. But seeing grinds on the counter, it’s not 100% clean. It bothered me because it’s something that I try to never do. I try to never see something that needs to be done and not do it. Whether it’s in my own ecosystem or it’s in the parking garage where I live or it’s, you know, something that could be done for later in.

00;03;09;15 – 00;03;31;04

Marcus

And that’s not because I’m this amazing high performer is because I’ve learned the things that set me up for success and the things that don’t. You know, there was a time when I was more like, Yeah, you know, it’s no big it’s no big deal. You know, like, don’t stress about, like life is short. And then I realized that that was turning those were turning into excuses for not being a high level performer.

00;03;31;04 – 00;03;46;01

Marcus

And I remember something that my mom used to always say to me direct or so was she’s like, you know, why would you wait to do something? Just in reference to cleaning, She was say, Just clean as you go. You do the dishes as you’re cleaning. And I never enjoy it. I’m like, I’m cooking. I don’t want to cook and clean.

00;03;46;01 – 00;04;02;19

Marcus

I’ll, you know, and now I really I vacuum my house twice a day. Like it needs to be cleaned. I clean, it needs to be fixed. I fix. I don’t call anybody, you know, at least until I learn the skill set. So that way I know someone can’t pull the wool over my eyes, you know, and I take pride in taking action, you know.

00;04;02;19 – 00;04;07;06

Marcus

And I believe that that rolls over to more of what we’re going to speak about today. So.

00;04;08;17 – 00;04;09;19

Lindsey

Yeah, I absolutely agree.

00;04;09;21 – 00;04;26;09

Jon

Yeah, I think it’s a it’s a direct plug in. Right. Like something as simple as coffee grounds speaks to the intentionality and the lifestyle mindset that you cultivate. I mean, one of the things that was fun was when Jeff Evans introduced us and you’re not just on the phone. We talked for my.

00;04;27;24 – 00;04;29;27

Marcus

Love, that guy, man, I really do love that guy.

00;04;30;22 – 00;04;37;04

Jon

He’s a good guy. Yeah, I I’m hoping he’s in Colorado. Sometimes we can get together for. Yeah, he cracks. Yeah.

00;04;37;20 – 00;04;55;00

Marcus

It’s not a lot of not them. He’s a he’s a you know he’s just a genuinely good like human being, you know, many more people like that, you know, So when, when he told me he contacted me, he told me about you guys, I was like, Yeah, whatever. Like, call me, text me. Like, it doesn’t matter what time.

00;04;55;00 – 00;04;56;25

Marcus

Like, so whatever, you know.

00;04;57;08 – 00;05;16;04

Jon

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And what struck me, you and I jumped on and we just started nerding out over like, the processes and like how you run operations and like, we shared some tools back and forth and it just like 30 minutes of exchanging ideas. And I was like, Well, I think this will be a great conversation for us to jump into.

00;05;16;22 – 00;05;35;04

Marcus

Yeah. And, you know, all that comes back to kind of what we were referencing before, You know, those things aren’t because like, this guy’s so smart. He’s just. I know, I know, I know that there are things that I don’t know that I don’t know. And now that I know certain things to know and not do is to not care.

00;05;35;18 – 00;05;48;13

Marcus

So once I found these tools, I was like, okay, this is how to do it. There’s no other way. If I choose to not do it, then I’m saying that’s another quote. That’s something my dad used to say to me, Shout out Chris Watts. He used to always say when I would get in trouble, maybe you guys can use this with your kids.

00;05;48;13 – 00;06;08;12

Marcus

You could say, Hey, it’s one or two things. Either you you don’t know or you don’t care. And he’s like, and I know that, you know, and I was like, is this like an epiphany? It’s like, damn. Like I, I did know and I chose not to. So what does that say about how I really feel about respecting my father?

00;06;08;12 – 00;06;11;10

Marcus

You know.

00;06;11;10 – 00;06;13;04

Lindsey

He’s that I’m probably going to lose that.

00;06;13;19 – 00;06;17;06

Marcus

Take. It’s powerful. It’s like, just sit with that. You just throw a little pause in there.

00;06;18;14 – 00;06;18;27

Lindsey

Yeah.

00;06;19;22 – 00;06;21;01

Marcus

Yeah, it comes in the back.

00;06;22;06 – 00;06;26;07

Lindsey

Oh, I’m sure that would be absolutely great. I’m always telling them that they planned poorly.

00;06;28;00 – 00;06;49;05

Marcus

Yeah, that’s not my fault. That’s in the same thing. It’s the same thing in business. They’re like, Hey, we need this tomorrow. I’m like, Hey, like, I completely understand that you need that, but that’s not my responsibility to account for your poor, your poor lack of planning, and now you won’t make it so. So. So you’re telling me you want to plan poorly, but you want me to execute highly?

00;06;49;15 – 00;07;00;19

Marcus

Walk out of here like you’re not respecting me as a professional. And if we’re working in the same organization, you’re not respecting the organization by having a lack of preparation. And I don’t think I can. I say, can I curse on here? Is that all right, you guys.

00;07;01;10 – 00;07;03;04

Jon

If you need to let it go, let it go.

00;07;03;13 – 00;07;21;26

Marcus

Yeah. It’s not like a fuck you like you as a person. It’s just like the fact that you’re disrespecting our ability. I live by code, So. So, you know, and we’ll get into more of my my actual, like, background or what I do now. But one, you know, I’m the head of marketing for Generation E Sports, which is the largest classic e-sports platform in the country.

00;07;21;26 – 00;07;48;07

Marcus

And I lead the marketing team in what we do as a as an ethic that we live by as a mantra is, hey, our our goal is to over deliver for you. Now, over delivery is a fun thing. Some people think that it’s in the eye of the beholder. I disagree. When you have clear, when you have clear KPIs and you have clear objectives and key results, you know what needs to be done.

00;07;48;21 – 00;08;09;06

Marcus

You know what the roadmap is. You know who needs what Because people have taken the time to think about it. We’re still going to need to be agile. Of course we know this, but when you have that, then you have the ability to always say in every conversation and every interaction is what’s what I try to do. How can we plus 1%, just plus 1%, And we do that every time, plus 1%.

00;08;09;19 – 00;08;30;07

Marcus

Then imagine where we could be in six months, in six years. You know what I mean? With six more companies, you know, reaching six times more people, you know, changing six times more lives so that everything I do so when I say, fuck you, it’s you’re not giving us you’re robbing us of the chance to do my best work for you.

00;08;30;07 – 00;08;33;21

Marcus

You know.

00;08;33;21 – 00;09;04;13

Jon

Don’t ask me to pay for your your problems, all right? Yeah. Don’t do it. So, yeah, let’s dive in instead of jumping around it. So you have good cause to have become incredibly intentional understanding a little bit about your past. So. So what’s caused you to, you know, grit to find a little bit for context of why we love the word so much grit is to be courageous, have brave to execute with bravery and to continue forward with determination despite difficulty.

00;09;04;23 – 00;09;25;16

Jon

Right. So looking at some of your past, having conversations with you, I know that there are some things that you had a face that you could have chosen to let beat you and you could have taken maybe some conventional routes, and instead you took ownership and started shifting things around so that you could craft a better life. What what happened there and kind of what created the what’s that?

00;09;25;16 – 00;09;32;17

Jon

We the Marcus, what we see today, you know? Well, why do you care so much about the coffee grounds? I understand what what created that.

00;09;32;28 – 00;10;15;01

Marcus

Yeah, that’s a good point and I’ll try to not be like too long winded, so feel free to like, jump in. But I mean, such a good question. I try to be more direct because I love talking, I love speaking with people. So I try to be more conscious of just being direct. But I’m an Army brat, first off, you know, thank you to all the armed forces, service members, law enforcement, every everyone growing up in the military, you learn that everything has a place, everything has a purpose in everything has a procedure that needs to be followed.

00;10;15;26 – 00;10;38;22

Marcus

One time I was I was riding my bike, whatever, riding around, hanging out. This is in Fort Hood in Killeen. I got home and my dad got home shortly after me, had been riding around on base and when I say base, I mean like not the housing, like the actual base, like where the soldiers are, the trucks and everything, like riding through base, right?

00;10;39;10 – 00;11;05;03

Marcus

And my dad said, Hey, where were you today? And I was like, I was riding my bike. He was like, What were you doing when the Return of Colors came on today, I’m like, maybe, like, so maybe six or seven times were different then you could just ride your bike around, you know what I mean? Like, Yeah. And he said, What were you doing when they were retiring?

00;11;05;03 – 00;11;15;15

Marcus

The colors, If you know what that is, they play the trumpet and you know, they bring the flag down for the day and every one stops what they’re doing and you hear it.

00;11;16;16 – 00;11;17;27

Lindsey

We taught our boys to do that, too.

00;11;18;06 – 00;11;18;13

Marcus

Yeah.

00;11;18;13 – 00;11;20;03

Jon

Thank you very much, Sammy. Yeah.

00;11;21;06 – 00;11;22;16

Lindsey

So we got to.

00;11;22;16 – 00;11;41;27

Marcus

Yeah, exactly. So I was like, What do you mean? And he said, You didn’t, you didn’t stop. And I know I know this because when I’m with my dad, that’s what we do. And it just made me very aware of recognizing where I was and the things that I do. I’m like, okay, well, this this is how it’s supposed to be.

00;11;42;04 – 00;12;00;03

Marcus

So that was like the foundation for me. It’s from a military from a military side. You know, I got, you know, growing up all over the world, you meet a lot, a ton of different people. I got the opportunity to go to college on a basketball scholarship to get my education and have my parents not pay for it.

00;12;01;04 – 00;12;19;18

Marcus

It was a blessing. It took a lot of hard work and it would leave me on a path to professional basketball. And the thing is, when I got to professional basketball, I really was just leveraging to grow my resume because I know that if I had professional basketball player or professional athlete on my resume, it’s just going to open up so many doors, like a certificate, like whatever, like I played professionally all over the world.

00;12;19;18 – 00;12;41;15

Marcus

People pay me money because I’m good at doing, I’m good at performing athletically and being that I wanted to be inside of inside of the fitness, health and fitness world, I thought that this would be an extreme upside for me. And it was. It opened up a lot of doors for me and led to my first opportunity, started my first company, you know, training, you know, local leagues.

00;12;41;15 – 00;13;04;22

Marcus

I had players that actually came from Europe, soccer players that came to train with me, Nflx players, MLB number two draft picks like semi-pro football teams that would lead me into managing facilities. Then I would open my first facility in 2013 and this is where it starts to get a little iffy. I started really, you know, there were a lot of things that I didn’t know and there were a lot of things that I didn’t know that I didn’t know, but I didn’t know that that was a concept back then.

00;13;06;22 – 00;13;26;10

Marcus

And, you know, my business is growing, you know, but at the same time, I wasn’t able to take care of myself. I didn’t know I was in I didn’t, you know, have the finances, even though the business is growing as and I just didn’t know I didn’t know that if I didn’t have that literacy on like the business side of things.

00;13;27;00 – 00;13;49;24

Marcus

So really fighting to grow myself and learn as much as I can and doing everything on my own, not to say everything when I say everything. There were some really instrumental people in that. They know who they are. But you understand what I’m saying? I was the cog, that I was the main card, and that would lead to a business partner wanting to lead that situation.

00;13;49;24 – 00;14;24;11

Marcus

And long story short, $20,000 is gone and our business pretty much in the matter of two days. Our name, if it’s a CrossFit things, you know, our CrossFit affiliates work. You already know what happened. Pretty much our affiliate became someone else down the street who had a struggling business who I had mentored, and our entire audience, our entire community of around 150, almost 200 members, was completely turned against me because the story was told, you know, and people were always that’s why perspective is important and conversations are important.

00;14;24;24 – 00;14;48;20

Marcus

Isn’t that true? And and it was a time at which I had started growing myself. I started reading more. I started paying for courses I couldn’t really afford six or seven steps by Ty Lopez Tribes by Seth Godin. I started buying books and giving books away. I started, you know, four hour work week for our body. I mean, the start at the start of you just I could go on and on.

00;14;48;20 – 00;15;11;27

Marcus

I just started listening to people who had like a pulse on what was really happening and were living the lives that I wanted to live. So when this happened and pretty much my world was swept up underneath me. Meanwhile, at the same time, when this partner said that he wanted to leave, I structured a deal with one of the largest gyms locally who wanted to absorb our brand, bring it on and be a part of theirs because it was so strong.

00;15;12;10 – 00;15;36;08

Marcus

If you know CrossFit lawless people I here, this is South Florida CrossFit lol. His brand was very well known actually like nationally I was actually offered with in less than a year of running my gym and just being the guy that played basketball. But we had really great performance programing at Community. I was actually offered the job to move to Chicago and manage Brick Chicago as they were building it, but I turned it down because I couldn’t let my investor down.

00;15;36;08 – 00;15;50;16

Marcus

I couldn’t let my community. I just started this journey. I wasn’t going to leave and just go do something that was better for me. I’m actually business the same way I treat the streets and I would never leave. I would never turn my back on you, not until the job is done, you know, just like our soldiers, you know, till the job is done, you know?

00;15;50;20 – 00;16;14;01

Marcus

So it just it was it turned my world upside down. That deal ended up falling through. And pretty much every single member of this gym who I’d known for three years, some of which couldn’t lift the barbell, and now we’re level two coaches, some of the highest performers in the in the in the region. And they wouldn’t return my call or my texts.

00;16;14;10 – 00;16;38;11

Marcus

They wouldn’t even text me back. And I wanted to kill myself. And what I realized is that I put too much of my worth in relationships and not enough in the development of myself and the sufficiency of myself as both is two things I care about growing myself as a man and grow myself as a professional. So I started doing more of that.

00;16;38;19 – 00;16;59;23

Marcus

You know, I read even more. I, you know, got even more courses and I started to remove myself in doing less of the things that were hands on with me in the gym, with things I was already an expert in. I mean, I was a master fitness liaison. I gave courses at the police academy. I did private classes with the SWAT team.

00;16;59;23 – 00;17;17;15

Marcus

I mean, with operators where you can even have them on camera. I’m teaching some of the best of the best how to move properly. I was on the exercise Science and Kinesiology board at the local university, and I did not graduate college and I did not go to school for kinesiology. So it was a really awesome thing for me to see that getting recognized.

00;17;17;15 – 00;17;41;03

Marcus

But at the same time I was struggling in these other places. So what I started learning was at high performers, they did these certain things. You know, they approached businesses or anywhere. They approached life a certain way. They approached routine a certain way. And honestly, I just started to see that what these people that were doing that were saying and I just was like, I just started emulating it.

00;17;41;03 – 00;17;57;16

Marcus

And one of the things that stuck out to me was when I heard Andy for to actually mention that and this was way back when his podcast was a lot younger, it’s undergone a little bit of a transformation. I don’t really care for it now with like, it’s like almost all Q&A stuff. I like more of his like shorter soundbites and stuff.

00;17;58;00 – 00;18;27;21

Marcus

If you get a chance. I would highly suggest it’s like the top business podcast on iTunes and Spotify and has been forever and and they don’t do any sponsorships, which is really cool because he’s a powerhouse. But he just mentioned that just like, you know, the attention to detail the detail. And when you’re doing your affirmations in the morning with intention, the detail and the visualization of, you know, pulling up in your car to the clear port and opening the door, it’s a woodgrain and it’s a black handle and it’s white trim.

00;18;27;25 – 00;18;42;21

Marcus

You know, I mean, all of these details, what the ground feels like, what the all of these these are details of you and visiting us. We can bring it to life. I have to have the same detail in every day of my life if I’m going to think about all the things I want and what I want for my family and, you know, the financial freedom that I want to create.

00;18;42;21 – 00;18;57;29

Marcus

So I try to do it in everything, you know, in how I walk my dog. I’m intentional. I’m not listening. I’m not talking on the phone when I’m walking my dog or like, you know, on Instagram or something. I’m like, this time for him. You know what I mean? When I’m with my girl, You know what I mean?

00;18;57;29 – 00;19;11;26

Marcus

It’s like, Yo, this time for her, like, Nah, don’t call me. Like, I can’t talk. You know, I’m saying this is her time. You know, when she’s done with me, then you can have me, you know, like, No, hey, I can’t. Sorry, babe. Like, you know, sorry, bro. Like, this is from this time, but this time I’m doing this.

00;19;12;02 – 00;19;27;28

Marcus

Oh. Oh. You want me to get in your calendar? Yes, I do. And if you got a problem with it, get the fuck out of here. Like, I’m sorry. And you don’t respect me as a man or a friend. Okay. See you later. You know, so it’s just that intent, you know, that everything kind of is. It’s all interconnected, you know.

00;19;29;13 – 00;19;38;07

Jon

It’s it is definitely interconnected. Intentionality is. So you just drop like a nuclear warhead of information.

00;19;38;15 – 00;19;39;06

Lindsey

All right. I know.

00;19;39;06 – 00;19;43;21

Marcus

I know. It should be a lot of sound bites right there. We got to mark that timestamp.

00;19;43;21 – 00;19;49;17

Jon

Yeah, Yeah. You just, like, flowed for 5 minutes. You just let it rain and there’s so much to go on.

00;19;49;17 – 00;19;55;05

Marcus

And so that was only 5 minutes. Then I did good because normally I could go way longer. I just, I just didn’t.

00;19;55;13 – 00;20;06;14

Jon

Get to find evidence. I hope it was 11 minutes. I call it 5 minutes. There’s a lot at night. There’s an uncomfortable question. I can’t help but be curious. You mentioned something early.

00;20;06;14 – 00;20;08;03

Marcus

On and nothing uncomfortable. Yeah.

00;20;08;18 – 00;20;24;08

Jon

Okay. Well, you you mentioned something earlier than there’s a story that was told about you and you’ve talked about the importance of literacy, the importance of being intentional in how you educate yourself, how you envision things, and how you realize that you were spending too much time and what you’re excellent at, and you wanted to hone some other skills.

00;20;24;17 – 00;21;03;12

Jon

And that because of the story that was told about you, you mourned loss because there was no room for conversation. Right. And I just can’t help but tide it and do a small shameless plug. So part of the great theory, I just launched another series that’s in another podcast called I’m Entrenched in the entire premise of entrenched is to have intentional, difficult, uncomfortable conversation across differences and in the goal is to help people break out of that entrenched fixed mindset where they see a white expansion, they see a black guy make assumptions, they see a gay guy make assumptions, whatever it is.

00;21;03;17 – 00;21;30;02

Jon

They make these assumptions and then make them the other the enemy. When in reality we have residents of art, right? We agree on core values, and if we just take each other, we can stand united, you know. So. So that’s the entire premise of Entourage. I can’t help but think one, I’m curious, what does something like that sound like to you, especially given your life experiences in business and losing all your friends from whatever the story was that?

00;21;30;02 – 00;21;31;29

Jon

Yeah, everything like that.

00;21;32;08 – 00;21;33;02

Marcus

I just kind of lost.

00;21;33;14 – 00;21;34;28

Jon

I know there’s a slight lag. I don’t.

00;21;35;12 – 00;21;54;26

Marcus

I don’t know. I think it was. Yeah, hold on. If you could. Could you repeat that one more time? I’m so sorry. It was, like, super weird and a couple people, like, calling me. I’m like, Do not call me. Like, I’m going to actually just, like, completely shut my phone off because two people just call me and I do not want to be disturbed.

00;21;54;26 – 00;21;59;07

Marcus

I wonder, I don’t know. But this they’re like, people are my favorite. So when they call, it actually comes through. You know what I mean?

00;21;59;13 – 00;22;00;09

Lindsey

Yeah. Yeah.

00;22;00;16 – 00;22;05;09

Jon

Dude, it’s funny. Part of our preflight is airplane mode. Has it? Yeah. Do not disturb should work and.

00;22;05;16 – 00;22;14;02

Marcus

Yeah, I, I completely forgot to put it on airplane. That’s what I. Yeah that’s what I did it. Yeah. I shouldn’t have, I should have done that. But yeah. Could you repeat the question because you’re about to put me on a roll. I know.

00;22;14;17 – 00;22;19;22

Jon

Oh yeah. I was hoping to get you Boeing. Did you hear the context of entrenched? What do you need?

00;22;19;22 – 00;22;22;01

Marcus

Yeah, I heard the context. Yep, I heard the context.

00;22;22;08 – 00;22;40;07

Jon

So, yeah, given the context, my question was, you know, with a goal like that for conversation, given the the current divisive political life that we’re leading and where a lot of people were trying to hit on our country and the opportunity and the ideals it represents, one kind of like what is your response to to the hate and divisiveness.

00;22;40;07 – 00;22;59;25

Jon

Right. Because I’m curious, relatively speaking, I don’t hate I don’t see you as a divisive human being. So I’m curious how you air stuff. And then also, what do you think the value of having a potential conversation is, especially given your life experiences? Losing tons of friends? Is the business not being able to have a conversation and any any other experiences?

00;22;59;25 – 00;22;59;28

Jon

You?

00;23;00;08 – 00;23;09;10

Marcus

Her Yeah, man, that’s just kind of right that I don’t actually.

00;23;09;10 – 00;23;11;24

Jon

I just had a full send it and just go to places people know.

00;23;11;24 – 00;23;46;16

Marcus

That was good Yeah so intentional conversations. Mhm. It’s a decision, you know having intentional conversations is you being open to not hearing an answer that you want to hear or not looking for in a specific answer. If you’re having an intentional conversation, it’s sometimes people just most people want to say what they want to say, they want to be heard and they want everyone to move as they see.

00;23;46;16 – 00;24;02;12

Marcus

I was just having this conversation other day and I was like, Hey, look, I’m telling you this, right? You’re not going to be able to grow the business the way that you said. You know why? Because you say that everything works better when you’re there. If everything works better when you’re there, know you’re always going to have to be there.

00;24;03;08 – 00;24;27;16

Marcus

Well, whose fault is it, really? If everything works better when you’re there, if you’re the one with the knowledge, it’s either communication or it’s systems or it’s personnel. It’s personnel. It’s your job to find that quick and get rid of it. You know, I’m saying if it’s communication, do a better job planning, get a coach. If it systems find someone that I can help you create an implement them.

00;24;27;16 – 00;25;00;07

Marcus

But when I tell people this, I’m like, Hey, listen, I’m just giving you this is me just sharing this conversation with you to to have an open dialog. A lot of people don’t want that. And that’s the problem, See, like, so I’m I’m a couple of things. I’m a black man, right? In America. I am vegan also. So those are two different things that when conversations around them come up, people get very defensive.

00;25;00;07 – 00;25;20;29

Marcus

You know what I mean? You either understand or you don’t. And it ain’t my job to teach you. It’s not my responsibility to teach. It’s not my responsibility to put you in your place. And it’s not my responsibility to carry the burden of you choosing to not sit down and educate yourself or hear someone who was trying to have a candid conversation with you.

00;25;20;29 – 00;25;57;11

Marcus

I only talk about a lot of these things when someone asks me like this, you know. So let’s talk about the talk about being black or brown person in America right now. Right. First off, there are a lot of amazing advocates. There’s a lot of great conversation happening, unfortunately for all the wrong reasons. You know, I think that a lot of times people just they are uncomfortable because they feel like they are going if there’s wrong or there is blame supposedly, supposedly pushed in my area, I that’s an indictment on me.

00;25;58;05 – 00;26;21;10

Marcus

But it’s not. It’s just either it is or it isn’t. Either you don’t know or you do know. You know, it’s either you understand or you don’t understand. You know, either you see from this point of view or you choose to not, you know, before I go, when I say, hey, John, listen, this is not working out, I’m going to say, yo, how could I Let me step back.

00;26;21;16 – 00;26;39;27

Marcus

How could I What did I do and not do in this situation to get us to this point? Did I really do my due diligence? Did I talk to Lindsay in like, like make her feel like she had an open place to come in and speak to me so we could perform better as a team? Did I let John, you know, I’m saying voice his opinions.

00;26;39;27 – 00;27;16;15

Marcus

And when he did, did I take action? You know, I’m saying, like, did I actually, you know, like, did I was I really did I lead my team properly? And then based off of that, I can say, you know, my I’m an intentional person. I’m coming to you. And I’ve already got the objections that you’re going to potentially have to me planned out because I took the time because I care enough to actually take the time and plan when I get in, like in relationships, like we’re going to have a talk, like I’ve got notes, I’ve got notes and I’ve got notes so I can so I can say all of the things that I

00;27;16;15 – 00;27;37;00

Marcus

feel need to be said. And I won’t respond out of emotion and I won’t respond out of spite. And I can make sure to say all the things that I think are important. But a lot of times people don’t want to have open conversations. They want to have. They want to what’s it called? They just want to make declarative statements, you know?

00;27;37;00 – 00;27;52;13

Marcus

So I just let them I don’t I don’t really care. It doesn’t really affect does it really affect me? You know, if you don’t think that it’s that police brutality is a thing, you know, does it really affect me if you don’t believe in what’s happened to the environment, you know, and how maybe we could do a little bit better if we didn’t consume as much meat.

00;27;52;26 – 00;28;06;29

Marcus

No. But then also on the other side, I’m looking at and, you know, there are a lot of people who have businesses and they take care of their families around the meat industry. I don’t want them to be affected. Maybe I should be aware of this, too. What does that entail? How would those people feel? Man? What if I know somebody?

00;28;06;29 – 00;28;24;05

Marcus

That’s a what if I had a police officer that was my wife, you know, or my uncle, and he was in this space where people were taken? How would that feel? How would I what can I do? How can I just be better in, like, helping to bridge that gap and not have a personal bias? It’s a very hard thing to do.

00;28;24;05 – 00;28;41;22

Marcus

It takes a lot of introspective thinking. In most times people talk without thinking and they don’t know what. They don’t realize that there are things that they don’t know, that they don’t know, and if they do know, they choose to not care. All those I got, I worked all those in one sentence. That’s pretty boring.

00;28;42;24 – 00;28;45;12

Lindsey

This guy is absolutely great, right?

00;28;45;13 – 00;29;06;24

Jon

He your flow and mixing your company up. You got my hands starting to sweat. My palms are sweating. I’m getting so excited for you and thank you for doing so. Like, I’m realizing that I am beating on the drum. Lindsey and I are beating on this drum. We’re going to war against the divisiveness because we believe in this land is amazing and that the opportunity presented here.

00;29;07;04 – 00;29;07;23

Marcus

100%.

00;29;08;27 – 00;29;09;11

Jon

And.

00;29;09;19 – 00;29;11;27

Lindsey

And we have children that we’re attempting that.

00;29;11;27 – 00;29;15;01

Marcus

Lead to. Exactly, exactly, exactly right.

00;29;15;01 – 00;29;40;09

Lindsey

You know that this is the next generation. And I have a I have a responsibility to teach them all of these things, to make them think before they speak. Right. Think of all the opposite sides to in fact, Jonathan and I couple years ago, one of the models of our family is intentional living. And how do you do that and how do you teach small humans that?

00;29;40;09 – 00;29;52;08

Lindsey

Because they’re just like, well, everything revolves around me. And I’m like, No, it actually doesn’t. So, you know, just kind of coercing them to understand these things.

00;29;52;18 – 00;30;09;07

Marcus

Yeah, No, I know that’s a that’s a challenging thing to do, you know? And I watch people. I mean, I don’t have kids, you know, hoping, you know, I’ll be as, you know, so lucky to have a, you know, wife and family of my own. But I remember when I was a child, this is kind of like a joke like in the black community also is like now before you go into a store in white community as well.

00;30;09;15 – 00;30;27;19

Marcus

I’m sure for you going to a store, my mom would just say, listen, don’t ask for anything. Like don’t look at anything like there’s nothing here for you. This is not for you. And this is correct. And then also, I remember there was a nothing and my mom used to say she’s like, it’s actually from my grandfather directly.

00;30;27;19 – 00;30;46;09

Marcus

So children are to be seen and not heard. And it wasn’t that I’m insignificant. It was just that you are not the center of attention. Yes, it’s cute when you do some of that, you do some cartwheels and you say something funny to a stranger and everybody laughs. Ha ha ha. But this is not for you. This is not.

00;30;46;09 – 00;30;57;19

Marcus

We’re not here for you. You know what I mean? Like and again, it’s that it’s that into and that’s those little humans turn into adults who still have the same mentality.

00;30;58;06 – 00;31;25;03

Lindsey

Yeah. I want you to level to listen well like when they learn to listen while they can actually have input. And if we’re bringing them. My biggest thing is like children are not brought to the adult table anymore to listen and learn and develop those ideas and even learn how to have abrasive conversations and how to have to problem solve and just Yeah, and I was like, That’s something that I really value.

00;31;25;08 – 00;31;30;00

Lindsey

I’m like, I want my kids to be able to speak to adults in a well thought out manner.

00;31;30;13 – 00;31;32;15

Marcus

But I actually I’ll go ahead.

00;31;32;15 – 00;31;46;03

Jon

All right. Thank you. Well, I was just going to say, is what we’re talking about here is we’re teaching both the younger generation in our in our peers in America, other human beings. Hey, do you know what you should what we all need to strive to do? Seek to understand before we seek to be understood.

00;31;46;14 – 00;32;09;07

Marcus

Yes. 100. Yeah, 100%. My my dad used to say, well, he’s not something that he used to say. I tell this story every now and then. It it’s just so you know, I’m a pretty stand out football player and basketball player. I’m always I’m the quarterback. I’m a team captain. I set records. You know what I mean? I’m I’m the big guy.

00;32;09;07 – 00;32;26;18

Marcus

I’m six, eight, you know, left handed, you know, 2 to 10, you know, in high school. And this this particular year, we had moved to Anchorage, Alaska. And so the two part story, first off, to take a little bit more about my dad, you know, we were in Germany and I was like, the man, you know, the man.

00;32;26;25 – 00;32;56;25

Marcus

And we were getting picked to Anchorage. And I’m like, Dad, like for me, in college, opportunities, like my best opportunity is where I am because I’m I’m, we’re setting the tone for what’s getting built here, and it’s being built around me. And my dad said, where I go. And like, there were people like on base, like other soldiers and like high, high rep people who were like, he can just stay here with us at least through the next year.

00;32;56;25 – 00;33;08;28

Marcus

That way he can. You know, I’m saying maybe like finish football season and then roll in the because at that time I was more of a football player than about. I’ve always been more of a football player than a basketball player. I just play basketball because I was like, I’m like, whatever. I’m not stupid. I don’t run a46.

00;33;09;05 – 00;33;28;19

Marcus

Like, you know, I’m saying like, whatever. So my dad said, Where I go, you go. And I said, You know what? If we go there and they already have someone that’s like, set in stone and I’m playing catch up, I’m not getting there in the spring. I’m literally getting there a month before school starts. I play quarterback. Yeah, everyone does.

00;33;28;19 – 00;33;46;10

Marcus

I’m not doing a whole new offense on it. And my dad said, Well, whoever’s there, you’re just going to have to beat him out. Okay, so then fast forward. I did, and it’s a weird story to tell because I’m best friends with that guy today and he was one of the best guys you’ll ever meet. He didn’t have a car.

00;33;46;10 – 00;34;14;15

Marcus

He picked me up. He picked his competition up because we were both soldiers, families. He picked me up and took me to all the camps and everything because I didn’t have a car, which most people would not do like his. He ended up being one of our top wide receivers, went to college and play receiver. But the story that was leading up to just tells it kind of tells a little bit about my dad was we get to basketball season that same year and it’s not really the same story for me like I’m I’m kind of coming into my own.

00;34;15;03 – 00;34;31;05

Marcus

My athleticism didn’t really come until college at the peak level and there was a game I went to high school with Mario Chalmers. Marlo Thomas was my point guard, sat out, Ronnie Chalmers, he was my head coach. Mario Chalmers You know, I’m saying NBA champ can’t take anything from a state champ. With us, Gatorade Player of the Year.

00;34;31;05 – 00;34;55;04

Marcus

We love you, Mario. I take a lot of pride. And you know, Anchorage does Alaska this particular game. I didn’t play very much and he put me in and take me out, put me in and take me out. So my dad didn’t make it to the game. And it’s very untypical of me. But my dad asked me about the game and started complaining, Oh, Cassandra’s put me in, you take me back out.

00;34;55;04 – 00;35;15;12

Marcus

I do one thing. You do this and I’m going on for a while. I’m going on for a while. And I’m like, And then this and practices this. And then he goes, Let me ask you, every time that you got the ball, did you score? No. I was like, No. Like, who does that? Nobody. It, you know. Okay.

00;35;16;05 – 00;35;36;02

Marcus

It was like because I won more. He’s like, so, like when your man, like, had the ball, like, like did you get a stop every time? And I was like, again, who does that know? Like, no, no, I didn’t. He was like, you know, did you like, did you, did you clean the glass? Like, did you you get all the rebounds?

00;35;36;29 – 00;36;01;27

Marcus

And I was like, No dad, of course. And he’s like, maybe you should. And I was like, My heart dropped because I realized what I was falling into and I was falling into what I’ve seen other guys do and what I’ve how I’ve seen other players become and how some guys were. And it’s that easy for my dad to support that behavior.

00;36;01;27 – 00;36;13;26

Marcus

It would have been that easy for him to be like, how, man, you know? Yeah, you know, but you got to play through it, you know, like, yeah, don’t worry about it. You know what I mean? There’s always going to be people holding you back, you know? He’s like, No, why don’t you take. And that was that’s the foundation that I’m built on.

00;36;14;09 – 00;36;36;13

Marcus

So I’m not going to blame somebody else, you know? And that’s the whole thing that you’re talking about with your kids. It’s like, Yo, don’t sit here and it ain’t what could you have done? You know what I mean? And then once you’ve done everything, once you’ve hit every shot, once you’re shooting over 70% and you’re getting a double double with 14, 20 rebounds and you’re stopping your guy and you’re known as a as a freaking stopper, you know what I mean?

00;36;37;02 – 00;36;56;14

Marcus

Then you can say something. And later I would become a player, even as a freshman in college, where I set a record for like double doubles. And I remember being in a playoff game and as a true freshman and there was a guy that just kept scoring, the coach taking me out, and I turn I turn it to coach.

00;36;56;14 – 00;37;14;26

Marcus

Price took price out our take price and I just said, put on him. He didn’t score again. And I started wearing that. You know, I wore that wore things with, with intention. I’m here to do this thing. And I started speaking it into existence. I had other times where there was a time where these are just funny stories now.

00;37;15;04 – 00;37;32;10

Marcus

It was a guy named Adrian, Adrian Moss, and he was started for the University of Florida at center the year they won the National championship. He’s about 610 to 15. I was about six, 8 to 20 at that time. And I got in a little bit of trouble at Florida golf course because we’re out in Hawaii and we’re doing things that kids in Hawaii do when they’re out there for a whole week.

00;37;32;10 – 00;37;47;18

Marcus

Don’t take a whole basketball team in Hawaii for a week, take them there, go to the beach. Okay. And so my stock had dropped because had been suspended a lot of games at the end of my senior season. And I just remember the conversation that they had around him and they were so this is that grit right here just kind of pulls into that.

00;37;47;25 – 00;38;04;05

Marcus

And I’m sitting in the locker room and he’s a rookie. I’m a rookie. He went to UF, I went to Florida Gulf Coast University, and these guys are talking about how great he is. And like all their team is this and he’s that, Oh, man, he’s like preseason player of the year for our league. And I just feel this fucking fire building inside, you know?

00;38;04;05 – 00;38;26;20

Marcus

I’m like, How dare anyone say that he could potentially be better than me. I’m telling you right now, there is no possible way on God’s earth that He’s more prepared than me. I’m it if I’m lying, I’m dying. And so I stood up. I stood up in the locker room and I said, When they come here, I’m looking at the coach.

00;38;26;29 – 00;38;44;06

Marcus

I said, I guard him. He guards me and don’t fucking take me out the game. And I was there to embarrass. I was there purely to embarrass him. I gave him like 35 and 20. It was a nasty 35. It was like it was like, Come out here now. We’ll go down there. Now. I’m going to go this way.

00;38;44;07 – 00;39;03;08

Marcus

Now I’m I use the other hand, I made sure that everybody at one point they switched him off of me and they put another guy on me, a big a big European guy. So I cleared the floor. I crossed him, he fell, he found me. And then I turned. I turned their benches at the far side. I turn I walked a half court and he’s on the bench.

00;39;03;12 – 00;39;19;04

Marcus

I said, Don’t put nobody else on me by him to the coach. You know what I’m here for? And if I’m going to lose, I’m going to lose. And if I’m going to make mistakes, I’ll make mistakes, but I’m going to be intentional. So I love that you guys are doing I love like you have to grit your teeth sometimes and bear down and say like, this is what I stand for.

00;39;19;05 – 00;39;27;06

Marcus

This is what I’m this is what I am out here to do. And I’m that doesn’t mean I’m going to succeed all the time, but I’m going to learn from those barriers and keep going.

00;39;27;27 – 00;39;39;16

Jon

Goodness gracious. Bravery, courage and determination despite difficulty. Right. It’s something that comes in. You cultivate that. You get to be confident, you get to be aggressive, you.

00;39;40;06 – 00;39;41;22

Marcus

Earn it, you earn it, you earn.

00;39;41;22 – 00;40;01;16

Jon

It. And that’s what we’re talking about. You have to teach people, young children, adults who don’t know because they don’t learn. You need to seek to understand before your first day, because that’s the only way that you have the slightest chance of earning a seat at the table where you have. You’ve earned the right to speak right like your father showed you in that car.

00;40;01;22 – 00;40;20;08

Jon

He’s like, Oh, you’re not playing perfectly. You’re not accomplishing every task you should then shut up. You’ve not earned the right to speak. Yet you don’t understand your coach’s perspective yet because your coach is going to put stuff who’s he’s doing better than you. So how about you look at yourselves instead of playing the victim and see how you can improve yourself?

00;40;20;08 – 00;40;29;04

Jon

Because then you will earn the right. You’ll understand why your coach is doing what he’s doing, seeking understanding, and you earn the right to be able to speak up and call and call anyone out and do your thing.

00;40;29;05 – 00;40;29;22

Marcus

Exactly.

00;40;30;14 – 00;40;31;24

Jon

Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah.

00;40;32;03 – 00;40;52;19

Marcus

Yeah. And it’s funny because that took me on a whole another route. I went from. I never played a day of a new ball, so I had no offers for basketball. After that conversation with my dad that offseason, I prepared like I had never prepared and going for the summer I started doing some really amazing stuff against some guys that would end up going to like Oregon, like seven footers.

00;40;53;09 – 00;41;12;25

Marcus

I started being a ten for max. I was like, When this guy comes here, I’m literally going to cave his chest in with the elbow and make sure he knows what I’m here for. And this led me to like going to prep stars camp at USC. Charlotte I would place top 50, I get nominated for them. I end up getting nominated for the McDonald’s all-American after having no offers.

00;41;12;25 – 00;41;31;08

Marcus

Larry, no one knew who I was. I went to one of the top camps and got that opportunity. We’d win the state championship. I’d be all state ALL-REGION. I’d go to a D1 school and it was like it was crazy. I didn’t take the school I went to. I didn’t take a visit to. I didn’t I didn’t need I didn’t need to.

00;41;31;09 – 00;41;44;20

Marcus

I thought that it was the best opportunity. I thought that it was there for me. I’m not there to be sold. I’m. I’m here for business, bro. I’m here to work. I don’t care what the campus looks like. I don’t care what the nightlife looks like. Listen, I’m here for this. I’m here for this action. And to get my degree, like, what’s up?

00;41;44;20 – 00;42;08;23

Marcus

You know, whoever’s there. I’m sorry that you came here, you know, and that’s just something I can’t take in. You know, Adebayo did really well for me because when I got into pro basketball, you know, getting on a plane and traveling 18 hours to then get off of, they want to see what they’re paying for straight. I’ve never had a place that I went to and off the flight day I did not practice, like straight to the gym.

00;42;08;23 – 00;42;25;29

Marcus

Let’s go, let’s get it in. And that mentality did so well for me, you know, going forward, because I always knew how to get myself into into the mindset of performing because I was ready to take responsibility. Because like like you were saying when I talked to kids, you know, I love training because I haven’t got to train kids recently.

00;42;25;29 – 00;42;49;15

Marcus

But most of my background started with training kids. And I would most times I had like the kid that wasn’t too good. He had asthma. He was smaller, you know, She was younger, you know, not as developed as the other girls. And I would say, Yo, you earned the right to go into these games, to go into these practices and do these things you’re earning.

00;42;49;21 – 00;43;07;14

Marcus

If you don’t earn it here, then you can’t do it there. And it’s the same thing in business. When I go into these calls, I earn the right to tell you, and that’ll be $10,000 because I’ve earned the right through execution. I’ve earned the right preparation. And what I don’t know. I’m going to go try to find out.

00;43;07;14 – 00;43;23;10

Marcus

And what I don’t know that I don’t know. I’m seeking out mentorship, which is probably one of the biggest things like that’s what this podcast is. It’s a form of mentorship. You keep absorbing it. You’re going to be exposed to things that you don’t know. And if that’s one thing I could go back, I would invest more in mentorship early on, you know what I mean?

00;43;24;00 – 00;43;41;11

Marcus

I didn’t really know what that was. You know, I think tie, Lopez said to seek out a multitude of mentors. And I actually it wasn’t him. It was one of his mentors. I’m pretty sure he was like a billionaire can remember which one. And, you know, you guys have a marriage, you know, you have a successful marriage, you know, when you want to keep it that way.

00;43;41;16 – 00;43;58;09

Marcus

So you’re not going to go talk to people with shitty marriages or people that are married. You’re going to go find somebody who’s done it for 60 years. You know, I’m saying, you know, if I want to be in business, I want to get better at my and my finances. I’m going I’m not going to go ask somebody who makes a little bit more than me or has a little bit better of a financial situation.

00;43;58;09 – 00;44;16;28

Marcus

I’m going to try to go find the the top level person that I can. And I’m going to follow with. You know, I’m going to have them as a as a mentor and as someone to lead me. I’ll sell my my girl, just try to face time and realize that on my podcast, historically. But yeah, I just love being a sponge, you know?

00;44;16;28 – 00;44;37;10

Marcus

And if I could just tell people, just stop talking and just listen more. You know, when I started listening more, the intent became so different because I could formulate my before I used to kind of prove my worth. Johnny Lindsey, I thought, was in adding to conversations. Now I realize it’s in, its in. If I’m going to add to a conversation, it’s in preparation on how we can execute.

00;44;37;10 – 00;44;59;03

Marcus

And that’s, that’s, that’s my e-book. You know it’s, it’s perfect execution and that actually comes from what we used to say in football. We used to say Coach John Jackson used to say there’s no defense for perfect execution. Thing about perfect execution is it requires preparation. I’m speaking to a business partner other day and I was like, well, what’s preparation?

00;44;59;16 – 00;45;20;02

Marcus

Well, it was finding the best players that I thought I needed to emulate, and it was watching film on them for hours and hours. Then it was watching film on myself for hours and hours. Then it was going to the gym and working on those weaknesses in the gym, shooting for hours and hours in the gym, lifting my nutrition, my sleep, my mental.

00;45;20;14 – 00;45;39;28

Marcus

Like it’s the same thing in business. Like what sops do we have? Like how are we road mapping? Like, what do we need to You know, it’s a few things that I find that people struggle with, and it’s normally the preparation, the planning, the execution, and then the follow up or follow through, you know, like what things do we need to do to first before we start preparing?

00;45;39;28 – 00;45;53;26

Marcus

It’s like it’s the planning. Like, like what do I want this to look like? Like told you earlier, I need to be on 20 podcast for the end of the year. That’s because I plan on like a plan. I got to do this. This is what I what I believe is going to get me the result. You know, once you’ve done the planning, then it’s the preparation.

00;45;53;26 – 00;46;07;13

Marcus

All right, let me get the logos together. Let me get the book. Let me get my call sheet together. Let me set up my calendar. You know, I’m saying let me get my shirt made with my logo. So when I talk, it’s all in there. Like, you know, let me get my microphone. Okay, let me run tests. I’ve got it.

00;46;07;18 – 00;46;24;23

Marcus

Okay. Awesome. In phase one of implementation, you know, phase one is 90 days out, phase to 60 days, what all things need to happen. You are. And the next thing you know, you’re just finding more and more and more things that you can that you can do to make sure that it’s a success for you and you maybe get the result you don’t.

00;46;25;02 – 00;46;40;01

Marcus

There are that you want, you know, maybe you don’t, maybe you do me the way now. The next time you do it, always going to be a lot better. And then the next time do it and next thing you know, you’re doing it for other people who are charging you, who you’re able to charge a pretty good amount for.

00;46;40;10 – 00;46;57;23

Marcus

And you’ve realized that this time, under tension like a muscle, you know, has grown. And David Goggins calls it a callous in your mind. It’s just the best thing. Like you have to like, develop that mental fortitude. And it’s not just in the execution, it’s in the planning and the preparation.

00;46;58;22 – 00;47;03;03

Jon

Right? It’s getting. Did it step on you once? Did you have more.

00;47;03;16 – 00;47;14;24

Lindsey

Know you’re good. I’m just listening. So I’m I’m a quiet person, sort of. I really think before I speak and it it’s caused a lot of fun tiffs and.

00;47;15;28 – 00;47;32;05

Marcus

I can that’s how I know. I mean, I don’t know. Oh, yeah, I know. But that’s why I kind of and the way I am, I try to like I realize that like, I used to just talk without thinking, you know, or I would respond, I will let someone else’s emotions move me.

00;47;32;05 – 00;47;34;02

Lindsey

Yeah, I know exactly how I was, too.

00;47;34;03 – 00;47;48;26

Marcus

Well, yeah. And in in sports, you know, I don’t know. I don’t know if you play sports on, but in sports, that’s a weakness. So then I was like, How come I don’t see it as a weakness in everyday life, you know, because it’s like.

00;47;48;26 – 00;47;50;02

Lindsey

You’re showing all your cards.

00;47;50;12 – 00;48;08;07

Marcus

Exactly. I’ll let you talk, you know, I’ll let you talk. They talk all that kind of timid. Don’t say anything. Don’t say anything. They’re talking and they see me warming up. They’re kind of like, Oh, yeah, you know? And then we start playing. And the first time I put my fucking hands on you, you already know what’s up.

00;48;08;07 – 00;48;08;29

Marcus

And you’re like, Wait a minute.

00;48;08;29 – 00;48;11;16

Lindsey

Like, like we thought you were quiet. Whoa!

00;48;12;04 – 00;48;30;09

Marcus

You know? And then once I start knocking down shots and you start hearing me communicate, you’re like, Wait a minute. And now we’re busting your ass. And I’m like, Yo, what’s up, bro? A little quieter here. It’s a little quiet, you know? Hopefully they’ll humble them a little bit. But yeah, I, I when you do talk, you can tell them that you talk with, with intention.

00;48;30;10 – 00;48;33;28

Marcus

So I respect you.

00;48;33;28 – 00;48;43;27

Jon

But what I love about what you just described, everything you’re describing is enflamed a small percentage of our population and it’s sending the crap out of them right now. And everything we’re talking.

00;48;43;27 – 00;48;49;04

Marcus

About, this isn’t for you. Then you’re not ready to receive that message. You will be one day, but right now you’re not. That’s okay.

00;48;50;04 – 00;49;13;23

Jon

Correct. And I’m okay sending people if it’s for something good like this. Right. Because this is also refreshing for everyone who’s losing their minds right now, thinking that this spirit, this idea of you have to earn it, you have to be intentional, you have to put in hours of prep, you can’t stop me, you can’t hurt me. I’m going to get there and I’m going to let my actions in my perfect execution put you on your heels.

00;49;13;23 – 00;49;34;01

Jon

And then I’m going to humble you because you were mouthing off and trying to act big with your words, that type of that type of courageous confidence only comes through well-honed competence. Right. And there’s nothing cocky because you’ve earned it, right. You’ve already humbled the man when you start speaking. So you don’t have to you’ve earned the right to open your mouth.

00;49;34;01 – 00;49;51;16

Jon

And that is like, wow, here’s a what he does. Here’s a person of wisdom and here’s a foolish person. The fool is trying to intimidate you upfront before he knows what’s going to happen. You are walking quietly but carrying a big stick. And then once you’ve proven what you’re capable of, then you’ll speak what’s on your mind. See that?

00;49;51;17 – 00;50;15;14

Jon

That is a powerful thing. That’s earning your place at the table. And you understand this. You’ve got an understanding, right? You know what’s going on in the equation and you’ve earned through competence in execution to say what’s on your mind and have it be valuable to be heard. That is something that I feel like everyone now just wants a badge honor for what they espouse and say is like from God’s mouth.

00;50;15;27 – 00;50;17;02

Lindsey

You want the participation?

00;50;17;02 – 00;50;19;18

Marcus

KIRBY Exactly.

00;50;19;18 – 00;50;19;25

Jon

Yeah.

00;50;19;26 – 00;50;21;12

Lindsey

No, they want the participation.

00;50;21;12 – 00;50;49;22

Marcus

TROPHY Yeah, man. Something you just said is very confidence comes through well-honed competence. Yeah. You know, knowing one’s self, that’s another really good book. That thought process in general of just like, knowing you like, what are your strengths? Like what are your weaknesses? Like what things do you like? What things do not like, like why are you the way you are?

00;50;51;12 – 00;51;12;25

Marcus

It’s so, so important. And again, we were talking Lindsay just kind of brings back to the point of the participation trophy is people want to talk to be heard. I’m here to problem solve. I j guys like I don’t really care like I just want this to be done. I don’t care who gets I don’t care who gets the the recognition.

00;51;12;26 – 00;51;13;22

Lindsey

The recognition.

00;51;13;22 – 00;51;34;29

Marcus

When my team my team knows when they do. Amazing. I’m gonna make sure that people know that it’s it was them when we get on calls I’m having you lead that section I’m not going to give an overview you’re the Smee. You know I’m saying you’re a subject matter expert. When things go bad, I’ll wear that then we’ll have a talk about how we can get better.

00;51;35;08 – 00;51;57;18

Marcus

But I’m. I need you in a good space. So let’s. Let’s take care of each other in that manner. And too often people want the recognition, right? For everything. They want the recognition. What I do is and, you know, like I’m you know, it’s funny because I try to move in a manner in business, like I said before, the same way that I move in the streets.

00;51;57;28 – 00;52;19;14

Marcus

And when I say the streets, I just mean in life in general, how I treat you as a friend. If we’re out at a bar and something, I’m not going to be any different. You know, I was thinking of something earlier. An important point is, especially because so many business professionals here in watercooler talk, you know, line Lil Wayne said, you know, Weezy said, you know a man don’t talk about an if a man talk about another man while a man’s not present a man doesn’t listen.

00;52;19;21 – 00;52;35;24

Marcus

And I thoroughly believe that that’s in friendships. And as in business, you know, you’ll talk to people and someone will complain to you like, you know, like when I was talking to my dad, right? Or, you know, the kids or something or, you know, you’re you’re, you know, you you know, you two in a marriage and it’s like, I can’t believe that so-and-so did this, they did this.

00;52;35;24 – 00;52;51;26

Marcus

And I was like, you know how you know, that should never happen? And I’m not okay with that. And I’ll be like, Did you say that to them, You know, be like, no, you know, I mean, I was just I’m like, Oh, maybe you should. Chris wants you to shut up. You know, maybe maybe you should. Maybe you should go have that conversation.

00;52;52;05 – 00;53;10;18

Marcus

You know what I mean? Maybe you should. I remember a time where a girl I was dating at the time, at the gym, some of the girls were doing things that girls do, and they were saying some stuff about or whatever, you know, she walked into the gym and she heard that and she’s telling me about it later.

00;53;11;06 – 00;53;25;29

Marcus

And she’s like, I walked in the gym and someone so and so and so were talking about me and they were saying this and I was like, yadda, yadda. And I was like, Did you say anything to them? Because I’m like, I’m like, I hope that she did right. I hope that she did. And she’s like, Well, no, no I didn’t.

00;53;25;29 – 00;53;52;02

Marcus

And I’m like, So I can’t stand up for you now because you didn’t stand up for yourself. Now I can’t now I can’t go and have a conversation and support you because you didn’t come with the proper exit. Follow through there to allow us to all like work as a unit, you know, So I don’t know where I was going with that, but I thought it was a good example of just like, you know, speaking up and that leading you to take that accountability and not feel like you deserve to have something for you, you know.

00;53;52;24 – 00;53;55;29

Lindsey

Absolutely.

00;53;55;29 – 00;54;23;20

Jon

Taking accountability on something like that and being like it’s a skill you have to you have to hone the skill of being courageous enough to engage in uncomfortable conversation. Right. Like whether it’s a conflict in it. Did you talk to them, know, like go tell them like whether it’s addressing the issue head on or whether it’s asking a question like, hey, we’re in a crazy time where everyone’s trying to make us hate each other.

00;54;23;24 – 00;54;48;22

Jon

What do you think? Right? Perspective. You’re a black man. I’m not. What do you see? Because I can’t see you. Because sometimes what I do is race, colorblind children or be colorblind. The world is such beautiful. If we see the differences and respect them and then see the mosaic of life around this, you know? So it’s like you have to have questions that are so poor and uncomfortable to be able to offer back something of greater value through that.

00;54;48;22 – 00;55;17;26

Marcus

Yeah, Yeah. It’s and that’s a that’s a interesting conversation because, for instance, when you’re talking about self-evaluation, right? So a lot of the a lot of things that happened. Right. You know, everyone that’s, you know, lost their lives. We could give the list out for whoever as well as police officers. We could give that list out forever. I remember there was a time where I we were in Killeen at that at the same time, a lot of a lot of lessons I learned in Texas.

00;55;17;26 – 00;55;46;03

Marcus

Texas has a deep place in my heart. I think I was like, I was I was out somewhere. I wasn’t supposed to be like somebody saw me. They told my dad or whatever. And then a couple of days later, I got in trouble for it. A couple days later, there was a situation where somebody like drove a car intentionally into like the front of a diner not far from us.

00;55;47;00 – 00;56;07;00

Marcus

And my dad was like, actually, it happened like around the same time, like literally like the same day or like I did this the day before. And so on the day that this fell, he was scolding me and he said there was somebody that was that was there that should not have been there. They were supposed to be somewhere else.

00;56;07;00 – 00;56;23;25

Marcus

They were in the wrong place at the wrong time when they should have been somewhere else at that time. And because of that, people someone could have been hurt or they could have been one of those people that lost their lives and they’re no longer here. I just remember crying and crying, thinking about, Man, I could have been somewhere I wasn’t supposed to be.

00;56;23;25 – 00;56;44;11

Marcus

And like, you know, whose fault would that have actually been? You know what I mean? Like that. Like me saying, All right, like, so when you’re talking about, like, these things that have happened, you know, in the, you know, news cycle and just, you know, in the last couple of years, it’s like the first thing I say is it sucks that I have to be a black man in America and I have to move a certain way.

00;56;45;02 – 00;57;10;24

Marcus

I’ll tell somebody story to break it down for them. I was like, Let’s say some shit’s about to go down. I know some shit about to go down. I’m not calling the police. I’m calling one of my white friends and telling them the story of what’s happening. So when the police come, someone else can speak for me. Because more than likely, in a we’re talking about a certain type of situation.

00;57;10;24 – 00;57;34;17

Marcus

If it looks a certain way, it’s just my word against theirs. Right. And the big black guy with cornrows and a nose ring is not going to get the benefit of a doubt. I do not expect to get it. It is what it is. What it is is what I’ve lived with my whole my whole life. Now on the other side, well, that’s supposed to be there.

00;57;34;17 – 00;57;50;29

Marcus

You know, I’m saying, how did I carry myself leading up to that situation? You know? So when I look at all these things that happen, I’m like, it’s a it’s a tragedy. Shouldn’t have to move this way. I mean, I should be able to if other people can talk to the police, however, like, why shouldn’t I be able to talk to police?

00;57;50;29 – 00;58;08;28

Marcus

However, people literally run from the police day. It’s a part of the job, literally. It’s a part of the job. So you know what I mean? So how come when one person runs, but at the same time, why were you running away from the police? Where is the evaluation that we can just where is the lesson that can be learned from that?

00;58;08;29 – 00;58;25;24

Marcus

You know, and that doesn’t always mean some people are going to be like, oh, you whatever. I don’t I really don’t give a fuck. Y’all don’t affect me. Like, like there were situations there are situations I’m 100% sure where there just that wasn’t the case. There wasn’t that no one being in the wrong place. There was. It just was a bad situation.

00;58;25;24 – 00;58;46;04

Marcus

That happens on both sides. But again, like, let me first like see how I can take accountability for my actions and do everything that I can. And, you know, before I start saying it’s these people and it’s just and then even then, what type of conversations can I have? You know, what type of conversations can we have going forward?

00;58;47;23 – 00;58;56;13

Jon

So I try to give an extra pregnant pause to make sure that if she has something to say, you know.

00;58;56;13 – 00;59;02;23

Marcus

That’s a good sign. I think they say like count to two or something like that or three and is like I like I see. That’s good. That’s good. Yeah.

00;59;03;09 – 00;59;35;16

Jon

I just want to explain. I want to because I’m excited and I listen, I really what I’ve loved about doing these shows is that I’ve gotten to practice intentionally, listen to every word that comes out of the person’s mouth before formulating what I want to go. And it makes it so much more dynamic and engaging and intentional. But, you know, the thing that I think is valuable in having a conversation like this and not trying to grade like whitewash everything gray, wash everything, you know, make it all just like a melting pot when it’s truly a mosaic and gaining understanding.

00;59;35;23 – 00;59;57;04

Jon

That’s what I’m trying to say. What’s so important about just working to gain understanding is we get to have much higher quality conversations that are more effective at driving the type of change and growth we want to see to better obtain the ideal that is set forth by the American idea, right? That’s set forth in the Bill of Rights, the Constitution.

00;59;57;04 – 01;00;22;29

Jon

There’s a lot of unfinished work there. But the idea of represented in our country is beautiful and super powerful for all of us, and it only comes through genuinely understanding each other and having the bravery to stand in the gap that we are able to fight, to continue growing the freedoms that we know and can contain. You know, So it’s like this type of conversation.

01;00;22;29 – 01;00;48;29

Jon

I frankly had no intent of going here, but everything in life is pointing at starting to point more in a direction for for me at least. Yeah. And you mentioned it’s like you’re in the wrong place at the wrong time and therefore that’s a question asked. Well, that that goes another direction to what happens if there’s bad things going on and I’m sitting in hiding in my house and the right thing is for me the wrong place for me to be is hiding in my house.

01;00;49;00 – 01;00;50;29

Marcus

I couldn’t do it. Yeah, right, right.

01;00;51;03 – 01;01;14;07

Jon

And because I do the wrong thing and I’m sitting hiding in my house, bad things are happening because I’m I’m not using my strength to help stop them. Yeah, right. It’s. Thank you for your patience there. I’m glad that you are my my computer just it’s a Yeah, it happens. You are saying for me to get to jump over in the future.

01;01;14;07 – 01;01;18;29

Jon

But if I said if we could, maybe if I could get the files from you. I’m glad we’re both recording.

01;01;19;11 – 01;01;25;07

Marcus

Yeah, it’s. I think it’s. I think like Lindsey said, it’s it’s going to be good because it’s records actually to the.

01;01;25;07 – 01;01;26;15

Lindsey

Cloud and the other room.

01;01;26;28 – 01;01;43;05

Marcus

Let’s go to the records to the cloud. And so when it’s done recording, it should just roll over to whatever account she’s connected to. The two are connected either way, it’s going to be like a link in the cloud. So I should be give it all. Yeah, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll, I’ll do the same. No problem.

01;01;44;14 – 01;01;44;24

Lindsey

Yeah.

01;01;45;29 – 01;01;52;09

Marcus

But I can remember what I was going to say. Oh I was going to say something just on this topic. It’s. Well, I.

01;01;52;09 – 01;01;55;06

Lindsey

Wanted to hear more about your book before we close out today. Okay.

01;01;55;17 – 01;02;04;18

Marcus

Yeah. Yeah. So the the e-book Perfect Execution. It speaks of a little bit about those things that we talked about. It talks about, first off, how one.

01;02;04;27 – 01;02;07;03

Jon

Quick, Marcus. We have a delay, brother.

01;02;07;24 – 01;02;12;28

Marcus

Okay, no problem. Let me see if I can share. So things.

01;02;13;06 – 01;02;17;02

Jon

With delay I don’t that this is a frustrating new set of challenges that we’re.

01;02;17;02 – 01;02;24;18

Marcus

Going Oh, don’t worry, don’t worry. Please. Like trust me, I know I’ve had the same thing happen, so I’m going to close out a couple of applications on my end.

01;02;25;18 – 01;02;44;07

Jon

Okay. So so real quick, because I would love to I think there’s two things that we want to hit before we have to say. One, I want to hear your response to where the computer got shut off and then, you know, around being in the wrong place at the wrong time in the inverse, right. Like there’s a place we need apps, but if you’re not acting, they’re back.

01;02;44;07 – 01;03;09;25

Marcus

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no. I actually was going to start to say, well, you know, well, that’s the first part that I kind of think about that is like you said, what if someone needs help? Right? I think that a big part of that is preparation, being prepared for that. Again, it goes back to this is all stuff that’s in the e-book, actually, and what I’m putting into a course that I’m launching around the same thing is it’s it’s preparation for that.

01;03;09;25 – 01;03;35;23

Marcus

You know, Grant Cardone kind of talked about it. He’s like, you know so say you you know the ten X rule great book. I highly suggest it. He says let’s say, for example, let’s use the example of you get somebody a taxi on the street, let’s just say it’s just hand to hand somebody a taxi like, all right, is it is it that person’s you know, I’m saying, is it that this happened to you And like that’s you know, that it’s not your fault or is it your fault?

01;03;35;23 – 01;04;07;20

Marcus

And this is what I mean, if I’m 38 years old, I’ve had, let’s just say, since I was in since I was on my own, since I was 20, 19, 20, I’ve had the option to learn how to handle myself in hand-to-hand combat. I did it prioritizing. So now when that opportunity came for me to protect myself, to get home to my family’s safe or protect someone else who I deem necessary because I’ve now visualized and assessed the threat I’m unable to do so.

01;04;08;17 – 01;04;33;26

Marcus

So what? You same thing with financial literacy. You know what I mean? Okay. It’s one thing to not know once you know okay to no one not do is to not care. You know what I mean? So I have weapons. I train with them. Should a scenario happen in our country, which is very common, unfortunately. Thank you to all first responders and, you know, love and respect to anyone who’s been a victim of a of a shooting.

01;04;33;26 – 01;04;51;21

Marcus

If you don’t know how to operate a weapon and you know, and you live in a state where you can, one, have a weapon in your house and to have a concealed weapon license, then whose fault is that when a situation presents itself and you are unable to protect yourself or those who you deem necessary to protect? You know, I mean, again, it’s a choice.

01;04;51;23 – 01;05;13;11

Marcus

They’re all choices. It’s it’s all choices. So like you were saying about huddling down and like, you know, all that, like I could never because that’s just the choice that I would make, you know, because I feel like I’ve prepared myself mentally to take whatever results might come, you know, is. But yeah.

01;05;15;02 – 01;05;37;05

Jon

Yeah, I think that’s spot on. And I think that also plays more on the ideological ground to write, like the conversations you have, like the conversation we’re having today is a great example where we’re just facing things head on and frankly, I’m having a great time and we’re having a blast. But yeah, this is setting an example for other people to follow positively and to engage in these types of conversations.

01;05;37;11 – 01;06;04;05

Jon

And what’s crazy is if you focus on executing things for perfect execution, if you focus on seeking understanding, seek to understand before you understood, and then to earn a seat at the table. It feeds everything that you did write. Your own life gets better. You get you position yourself to be able to help others in positions where that’s necessary and to be able to take a stand for things that are good and against things that are not.

01;06;04;13 – 01;06;24;01

Jon

So I think it’s a full circle saying from the personal to the family to the community, that we get a walk in when we embrace mindsets like the one that you’re talking about that we’re discussing. I mean, dude, you’re great train. You’re one of the rare people that I don’t even have to put a hand on. I just sit back and you’re just running with all the ideas.

01;06;24;01 – 01;06;37;05

Jon

That’s like, yes, that’s what we want to motivate people. Yes. These are the types of issues we want to tackle. Yes. That’s what we want to call out and say, Hey, if this a Benji, it’s not your time yet. You’re just not ready. You know, it’s beautiful, man. This is this is a way. Yeah.

01;06;37;14 – 01;06;38;10

Marcus

That’s actually like.

01;06;38;16 – 01;06;56;14

Lindsey

I’ll go ahead with that. Oh, I say one of the things we’ve really been talking about with the podcasts is grit is defined as a noun. And I was like, How do we make it an action? Like, how do we, how do you get people to understand that you have to take action 100% of your days and it starts with you?

01;06;57;19 – 01;07;16;25

Marcus

Yeah, 100%. You know? Yeah. No, I love that There was something that you kind of said earlier about, you know, when we touched on a little bit about people, you know, being ready for things and this is something the four agreements is really, really great book. If you’re just dealing with anything. I think that book saved my life, but I’ve recommended it to so many people.

01;07;16;25 – 01;07;39;09

Marcus

I’ve gifted it to so many people. The four agreements, basically about just four months, just to pretty much live by and one of the things I learned from that book was that, you know, like not everyone is ready to receive a message. I remember it here where things all go back to sports. Sports, always a good example. I’ll go back to sports.

01;07;39;09 – 01;08;00;17

Marcus

And I remember there were things a coach would say to me and I can remember, you know, sixth grade, seventh grade. I remember my dad saying it when we’re watching sports and I was a kid, and then I’m in high school and I hear it and it clicks at that point in time. I was ready to receive that message when I was speaking with successful businessman and family man.

01;08;00;23 – 01;08;20;01

Marcus

You know, when I first started my businesses and they were talking about getting things in order and having procedures and hits and stuff, I’m like, Oh, yeah, yeah, you got to be organized. Yeah. The day that it hit me that I was ready, fully ready to receive that message wasn’t till some time later, you know, with your partner, you know, things don’t work out in relationships.

01;08;20;19 – 01;08;41;09

Marcus

And I was in a relationship for almost four years. I’m no longer in that relationship. And the thing is, is that maybe we weren’t ready to receive each other. We weren’t ready to hear the message or needs of. That’s totally okay. Like when it’s time when you when it’s time for you to understand it, you will. And it’s not it’s not your job.

01;08;41;09 – 01;09;00;19

Marcus

It’s not my job. It’s not our job to make someone see that I’ve just I’ve just come to accept that some people are ready to receive certain at certain things some things. I’m not ready. I’m not ready to receive that. I’m not ready to wait. I can’t I can’t give the inner the proper energy that it needs for that.

01;09;00;27 – 01;09;15;21

Marcus

But I’ve made a mental note of it. I made a check and I’m like this is something that I’m going to have to receive sooner or later. I’m going to have to receive the fact that it’s not I’m not always right. I’m going to have to receive the fact that I really know women like I think I know women.

01;09;15;21 – 01;09;33;00

Marcus

You know what I mean? I’m going to have to receive the fact that, you know, health may and maybe it doesn’t look like, you know, seven whole, you know, seven whole eggs, you know, eating chicken breasts and cooking, you know, my eggs and bacon grease and having oil and coconut oil. I’m like, maybe for me, that’s not what that is.

01;09;33;00 – 01;09;58;29

Marcus

And a lot of people are not going to be able to. I remember a really funny thing, you know, in 2015 or so when I started this journey, Plant based and I posted this actually after I had blood clots, which I don’t we never talked about, but 1013 I had blood clots. I was like in the best shape my life is when I was training with Jeff and he actually I will never say this, Jeff said he I had a really good chance at making regionals because of what my numbers were in my performance of what That’s I’m just really coming into Olympic lifting.

01;09;59;23 – 01;10;22;18

Marcus

And at the same time, I came down with blood pulmonary embolism. I couldn’t train for like a year and longer, almost like six months. And I ended up using plant based philosophies instead of medicine. I went completely against doctor’s orders. And I just remember sharing some of the things I was learning on Facebook and how people attacked me in 2015.

01;10;22;26 – 01;10;45;18

Marcus

Oh, yeah. And, and I just remember thinking like, that’s okay. Like they just aren’t ready to receive this, this message, you know what I mean? And that’s okay. It’s not my job to teach them. And it’s, you know, it’s just something that I’m just going to move on from. So now I think a lot of us can learn from, you know, people that already received this.

01;10;45;24 – 01;11;06;26

Marcus

They’re going to take this in their some life. There are some life altering messages. If you really sit back and while you listen, you know, maybe listen to this the first time, you know, and then go back and listen to it again and take some notes. There are some podcasts I’ve listened to for like 20 times. Every time I’m like going back through and taking more notes on it and applying them to my life.

01;11;07;16 – 01;11;24;25

Marcus

I think this is one of those if people can listen to this, I think what you guys are doing is very important. You know, sharing it from the point of being partners as well. You know, I mean, I don’t know, this is like something like more than 50% of marriages or something end in divorce, you know? And I think I think like I mean, I’m not married, so I can’t speak to that.

01;11;24;25 – 01;11;44;29

Marcus

But I think that if you’re unhappy, then you should do things that are going to make you happy. But if you signed up for this, what could you have done right? Accountability to go into this situation with more intent and be ready to receive your partner. So got things I think about with because I want to be married, you know, I want to have kids.

01;11;44;29 – 01;11;50;10

Marcus

I mean, having business and money, all that shit and shit. If you don’t, if you’re not fulfilled, then not something that will fulfill me.

01;11;51;14 – 01;12;10;08

Jon

Yeah, correct me. Well, hey, thank you so much for coming in today. You know, there’s two things that as we land this plane and this phenomenal conversation you’ve mentioned in terms of a book, perfect execution, did you tell us a bit about your book and then how that people can reach you so that you learn more about what you’re doing?

01;12;10;17 – 01;12;28;21

Marcus

Yeah. Thank you. So, so perfect execution. It’s actually a free e-book that you can get, and it’s basically just going to go through some of the processes that we talked about. First off, how to live your days, like with intent, how to just organize your schedule a little bit, some tips that I’ve you that I’ve kind of picked up from people way smarter than me.

01;12;29;00 – 01;12;49;19

Marcus

I mean, I’ve kind of tested what does work and what doesn’t work. That’s from waking up to going to sleep. Many other part of that is how can you how can you plan season, how can you prepare, how can you plan, how can you then execute and then how can you follow through in survey things? I mean, that’s in anything that’s in large things or just your life, just your day to day life in general.

01;12;49;19 – 01;13;13;02

Marcus

It could be for your business that that’s also associated to a course that I’m going to drop. That’s going to follow that here later. This year, which is basically helping like business professionals, you know, age 35 to 55 who understand and are ready to receive that message. And even like I talked about before, in seeking out a multitude of mentors, why do you need to I always thought I got to you.

01;13;13;03 – 01;13;27;22

Marcus

I got to learn this. I got to I got a house. I got to learn it. No, I don’t. I’m a expert. I already know how to do this. I got a virtual assistant for this. I got a virtual assistant for Pinterest. I got a virtual assistant for this. I’m finding people like you, and I’m like, Hey, listen, So how do you how do you go about this with your kids?

01;13;27;22 – 01;13;47;27

Marcus

How do you go about this in your me? I’m going to so I’m going to seek. So this is a part of it. It’s going to talk about that, you know, the importance of seeking out a multitude of mentors. The important the importance of assessing your performance and setting, you know, KPIs and OKRs for yourself in the business of your life, which then leads to how we run that performance into businesses that we’re building.

01;13;49;15 – 01;13;52;26

Jon

Beautiful. So that book is a free e-book and where can they get that.

01;13;53;10 – 01;14;16;09

Marcus

Yeah so Marcus watch dot com, that website is getting completely revamped right now. And then also if they just want to have a text community so if you just text well I won’t say the number on here, but the numbers will be in the description and if you text. Yeah. And if and if you text perfect execution to that number, you’ll get sent a link for it.

01;14;16;21 – 01;14;24;03

Marcus

And that I’ll also send you some other information so you can just get that download and kind of come into the ecosystem.

01;14;24;03 – 01;14;25;07

Lindsey

What about social media?

01;14;25;25 – 01;14;50;11

Marcus

Yeah, so I do. Yeah. Yeah. So on social media, I’m known as my fitness in business persona is Watch Guy and I kind of had to make a change and have a completely different side of things for the business side of things. So you don’t, you guys don’t need to tag me on that or anything, but if you guys want to come over and just hear stuff about marketing and performance and stuff like that, that’s it’s.

01;14;50;11 – 01;15;03;13

Marcus

Marcus Watts same way it sounds. And then my main persona that I’m known for is the watch guy. And that’s kind of where I’m, you know, talking about my health and fitness stuff and stuff that I believe. That’s just stuff that gives me fulfillment and happiness.

01;15;04;13 – 01;15;08;12

Jon

Cool. Well, awesome. Thank you, Marcus, for guys.

01;15;08;29 – 01;15;10;22

Lindsey

Yeah, We appreciate your time today.

01;15;11;16 – 01;15;13;01

Marcus

Yeah.

01;15;13;01 – 01;15;15;28

Jon

Conversation right now. I’m definitely do.

01;15;16;00 – 01;15;37;02

Marcus

It. I’ll be on, I’ll be on. I’ll be on any time. Like I’ll be on any time like straight up. So but no, I appreciate you guys. I think that what you’re doing, you know, and putting the energy in to, you know, do this and, you know, spend an hour and a half with the complete stranger and schedule with people and to have them show up or not show up and, you know, all the things in the editing and all of those things which we’ve kind of thought about some ways of maximizing and whatnot.

01;15;37;02 – 01;16;00;23

Marcus

But like, I just really respect you guys. You know, a lot of work goes into it. But I do believe that down the road you guys continue on this path, that the intent is going to lead to some very high level performance. So yeah, just keep doing what you’re great conversation.

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