Episode 19 from The Grit Theory.

Today we discuss how to make hard things easier to accomplish through small consistent  powerful life changing decisions. Highlights from the conversation include:

– Choosing how and when to create goals.
– Progressive overload of the mind.
– Increasing the cost to failure.
– We are the some of our actions.
– Make it inconvenient.
– Study yourself, the need for self awareness.
– Redeem your Windshield time.

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Episode Transcript

00;00;00;09 – 00;00;23;03

Jon & Aaron

Kind of topic of conversation. How to make hard things easy and how to make easy things hard. Here’s how it goes. Let’s say change your lifestyle. Like I don’t want to just visit the site. I’m really personally, I don’t like having a 30 day diet and then giving yourself an hour and then going back to doing whatever. To me, that’s madness, you know?

00;00;24;03 – 00;00;43;19

Jon & Aaron

It really, really drains the soul when you just keep going back to the same old habits. So what if you start a whole new habit? Well, that what that looks like is you have to make it easy on yourself, which sounds the exact opposite of what the great third is about. Isn’t this about, like, running into the fray and doing the crazy, difficult things?

00;00;43;24 – 00;01;04;09

Jon & Aaron

Well, what if it doesn’t have to be difficult in the sense that it keeps you away from doing it so far? And what I mean by that is if you had a pantry for food and there’s good things in there and there’s bad things in it, those are hopefully, you know, you’ve identified those things. But one of the bad things is so good, right?

00;01;04;24 – 00;01;32;16

Jon & Aaron

Well, if the bad things pays really good, that makes it easy for you to eat it. Hmm. Does that make sense? Right. And it’s a good things taste worse or bad to you than it makes it harder to eat it. So what do you do? Well, if the easy is the if bad things are easy to eat, then keep them at the store or create less options for them.

00;01;33;11 – 00;01;57;01

Jon & Aaron

Right. So I won’t say it’s just like I won’t drive to the store to get chips if I want them in the moment. Yeah, I’ll find out what’s easy to get in front of me and I’ll decide what those are. So it’s really it’s about creating options that you can win by making an easy decision. Does it make sense?

00;01;57;17 – 00;02;21;08

Jon & Aaron

Yeah. I think we talk about increasing the possibility, but once you set a goal to make it more costly to do the things that would not produce success. Right. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So, like, it’s it’s it’s it’s sort of like if you use a word picture, like if the ice cream cone is two miles away, you’re not likely to get it.

00;02;21;28 – 00;02;43;13

Jon & Aaron

If it’s in your freezer, you’re assuming there is an addiction to gummy bears and we have a big bag of gummy bears entry. And I will never, by going to the store to eat them and trying to do that mentality. Right. Right now, I’m not worried about eating over some cake with my hand for two, but if it becomes a I want won’t have gummy bears in house.

00;02;43;20 – 00;03;02;26

Jon & Aaron

That’s a fact. I did. I actually did this. And I do this by accident at work. There’s there’s a number of other businesses in there and they have this kind of bulla treats and it’s a and this is for me, because every time it was like Reese’s Peanut butter Cups of Milk was all these kind of things like that.

00;03;02;26 – 00;03;23;02

Jon & Aaron

It’s something that is attracted to me in like, I didn’t even want this thing, but it’s right here. Yeah, why not? I just want to grab it. Like the geometry. That Bill’s sitting there waiting for you to scarf down. You know, it’s funny. As you mentioned, the idea of making hard things easy things harder, and, you know, like it.

00;03;23;02 – 00;03;43;28

Jon & Aaron

There’s two mentalities. There’s 2000 jumps in my mind when we’re getting the conversation. One is making hard things easy, right? How do you do that? You know, let’s say you want to do the diet or you want to go read a book or whatever your goal is. But maybe that’s hard because it’s not in your like, let’s see, you want to it’s lifestyle change or you want to become a more avid reader.

00;03;44;08 – 00;04;17;22

Jon & Aaron

You want to eat healthily. You want to become more physically fit. Right. So that you’re working in the pursuit of being a better meat stuff. It’s hard, and making that easier is through this idea. You can adapt it mentally or progressively, you know, progressive overload in the athletic field is, you know, if I can have £10, ten times more with the 11 and 12, and then once I get 15, make £12 and, you know, you just continue to increase, strain proportionally to what you’re capable of executing.

00;04;17;28 – 00;04;39;24

Jon & Aaron

Right. And over time, you know, you can lift £100. You started, you can live ten. But if you stay consistent and continue to progressively incrementally increase the load proportional to your ability, you’re losing £100. When that was unfathomable to start with. I think that’s what we’re talking about. Yeah, it’s overwhelming if you start with what the goal is.

00;04;40;03 – 00;04;57;18

Jon & Aaron

Now, if you if you haven’t been in a habit of doing healthy things and you’re just that, then this is kind of what a diet or crash site is. That’s the idea. It’s like instantaneously we want you to be this person you’re not. It’s interesting. Yeah. And it’s like, well, no wonder it’s going to last four or five days.

00;04;57;18 – 00;05;26;09

Jon & Aaron

You’re not that person yet. You can become that person. So it’s by incremental, like you say, adding a little bit of weight each time and then not even realizing it is much stronger. Absolutely. And it’s you may even ever need extremes like these crash routines. Right. Like, I’m thinking about I think I’m well over 220 days of challenge do challenges in the last year.

00;05;26;09 – 00;05;48;13

Jon & Aaron

And so it was never about one challenge. It was about, okay, if I keep doing challenges, how will I transform? So I’m just using those as a keys to create habits over extended periods of time. Yeah, and it’s fun because they’re they’re changing in difficulty, scope and precision of what I’m aiming for to create the results. So much of it.

00;05;48;13 – 00;06;09;08

Jon & Aaron

And they’re also getting longer. I’m finding now the the things that really I’ll test something for 30 days and then if it’s really getting after what I’m wanting to cultivate, I’ll make it 100 days so that I’m I’m encouraged to make it part of who I am. So that’s something I do. And that makes some very difficult changes a lot simpler.

00;06;09;08 – 00;06;35;13

Jon & Aaron

And I think I think easy and simple here. I think easy is simple in this context. If you take something that’s difficult, emotionally draining, exhausting, difficult to sustain, and you simplify it and you can pursue progress in it. Yeah. Then when you look back six months from now, you will have gone way further. And if you try to sprint, you know, is that what you’re saying?

00;06;35;17 – 00;07;00;22

Jon & Aaron

Yeah, absolutely. I think the mind needs it to be simple, especially when it’s something you’re not familiar with. Philosophy is this way to perspire about physical, any kind of mental acuity that you’re trying to accomplish and just anything you’re learning. At some point it has to start with one plus one equals two. Okay. Got that. All right. Let’s build on that.

00;07;01;17 – 00;07;24;29

Jon & Aaron

What’s fun is like, because I’m thinking about, okay, well, let’s say you’re wanting to get yourself more essentially disciplined, right? A lot of these things are just one day isn’t going to be healthier. Read more, exercise work on some project, right for yourself. It’s like, okay, there’s going to be things that are tempting you away from making the choice to do those things.

00;07;25;14 – 00;07;44;17

Jon & Aaron

Can we make it more difficult to choose those other things and the desire to choose what we want to do? Right. If you want to, you know, build a fence and then you’re done with work and or you want to build a treehouse for kids, you know, that should be sitting there, right? And you’re like, Oh, I just wanna watch the TV.

00;07;45;06 – 00;08;05;04

Jon & Aaron

How do you make it so that’s hard to watch the TV, right? How do you increase the cost of failure? Yes, because not everything needs to be replaced with sweets. My my tactic removed the sweets so I can reduce the sugar intake. Remove the sugar. I don’t want to have a conversation. I had a couple sweets, that’s for sure.

00;08;05;06 – 00;08;30;26

Jon & Aaron

Right. Just remove it. I want it for me virtually every year. Experiment with drinking. It’s not removal because I will be motivated to get a tasty beverage that I’ll get. I’m driving, pick them up, make a date night or whatever. Justify it because I want that enough to make the decision. So I was like, okay, every tactic does not work equally, apply to every problems and you know, so every solution does not fit every problem.

00;08;31;06 – 00;09;04;05

Jon & Aaron

And that’s good because like what The definition of insane is trying the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. So when I tried mixing it up and it’s like, okay, I just want to further minimize my intake over time, you know, without worth it. Just want to continue to minimize and change that part of what’s been a big part of my life for a long time in what I started doing was costing calories on an assault bike for a while.

00;09;04;05 – 00;09;25;16

Jon & Aaron

But do it right now on a day, two or three of 100 days of 200 calories you drink. And that’s really fun for me because I’ve been excited, encouraged by the results of 100 calories to the point where it’s now like, I have no problem, I have no guilt, no personal wrestling’s. I’m like, it’s going to cost you your calories.

00;09;25;23 – 00;09;47;07

Jon & Aaron

So I get if it’s worth it, it’s worth it. If it’s not, I don’t. And it’s it’s another tactics. Making hurting is great. Like you talk about this hard habit forming things that you may do and even if you have them under control but you just like to further remove them from your life. Yeah, there’s more. My point here is try different things to find what clicks for you.

00;09;47;14 – 00;10;09;22

Jon & Aaron

It helps you motivate to pursue the things you want, but maybe it’s hiding your remote. Maybe it’s putting the TV in a closet so you have to pull the TV out every time you guys watch your favorite movie. So just sitting down and flipping, right, You know, creating increase in the cost of failure, making it harder to do the things you don’t want to do so that it’s easier to do the things you want to write.

00;10;09;22 – 00;10;24;04

Jon & Aaron

Yeah, a great one is if you go to a gym. I know a lot of people packaging back every night so that all they have to do in the morning is scrap it. You know, they have to get up and find their clothes. They’re just trying to find ways to make it easier to do. That’s exactly that’s exactly what I wrote.

00;10;24;04 – 00;10;46;01

Jon & Aaron

Because, you know, you get you get a plan for the the conflict in your mind. Yeah. And so when the conflict like it’s almost like you’re setting yourself up for success in the future, like the future self is weak at a certain moment. You know that about yourself. It’s like, hey, I know when I get home from work, I go into a certain routine and I hate myself for the next morning or whatever, you know, whatever that is.

00;10;46;01 – 00;11;07;27

Jon & Aaron

Or maybe not. Hey, you somebody just, like, could be better. Like, okay, this could be challenged in my life. All right? So you know that. Okay, so what do you strongest mentally? You know, this could be another conversation we have, but find out that moment in the morning, a day or whatever, and plan for success. So like you said, I’m going to the gym tomorrow.

00;11;08;07 – 00;11;24;12

Jon & Aaron

I’ve committed to doing that. But I know when I wake in the morning, I’m not going to want to do that. Yeah. And what’s worse is, you know, John, I know he’s not going to be there that morning because he’s out vacation or something, so I could get myself in out here and sleep in, you know, that kind of thing.

00;11;24;12 – 00;11;58;12

Jon & Aaron

And I’m in if I if I don’t plan for that conversation ahead of time, I know I’m just going to lose because, you know, get another one. It’s going to be a lot nicer to just not do this thing, you know? And this is just one. But I’m, of course, using this example. But we’re physical be so like doing physical hard things in this struggle to make music apart or because if you make easy things hard intentionally as part of training then doing the hard things and making them simpler and more easy to accomplish overall it truly becomes more doable.

00;11;58;20 – 00;12;27;09

Jon & Aaron

Yes, right. And like as a short aside, there’s a few more things that will exercise your state power more than if you’re expecting to meet up with someone for training session, especially if it’s cold and crappy. Outside weather’s terrible. Yeah. And they can’t come for whatever reason. Doesn’t matter now you’re by yourself. You have a choice. Do you put that workout down or do you get after it or even add more to it to just now home?

00;12;27;09 – 00;12;49;02

Jon & Aaron

The fact that I’m here to do this regardless of if I lose my body or not, feel those things and that that is applicable to so many different aspects. Right. And that’s why we’re such large proponents of physical fitness and doing things because it is a tool to build the grit muscle in our minds to become more resilient.

00;12;49;05 – 00;13;16;06

Jon & Aaron

Absolutely. And to make tackling these harder things easier. It’s a great well, and that’s I think that’s encouraging about it because you take it you take those things that are hard and you do them and you make them easier to do. And consistently the hard things actually become easier. That that’s a guarantee. If you focus on if you focus on reading more and you create some small habit, I mean, a page a day and a sentence a day, you just consistently do that.

00;13;16;23 – 00;13;40;27

Jon & Aaron

That’ll become easier and easier and you want to do more and more. And so that hard thing of sun that used to be hard is not hard. But conversely, those easy things that you do that were not beneficial and those can also get easier. And so that’s the morning line. Careful that you’re making it easy in your life is not helping you because it will also grow if you allow it to continue to be easy.

00;13;42;02 – 00;14;07;20

Jon & Aaron

I like putting boundaries is a great way to do that. Make it a little harder every time we’ve talked about that before, right? That we are the sum of actions. Yes. Right. Yeah. If if you want whatever you are, it’s the sum total of all the choices you make sense of. You don’t have to choose change the choices you make for all those decisions, all those micro decisions fuel who you are.

00;14;07;22 – 00;14;28;05

Jon & Aaron

Right? What is the old adage? What you think becomes what you say, what you say becomes what you do, what you do becomes who you are. Therefore, what you think becomes you are like It’s the same thing, you know, with anything you do and that. And that’s where it’s like, do what you can well and make sure you’re in the best of your ability.

00;14;28;05 – 00;14;51;13

Jon & Aaron

It’s a month where you want to go and then keep honing everything into that. It’s a continual reassessment of how to make this better. You create if if we have 100% potential and you can best achieve 97% before you die, right? You’ll never get tired, but you can get as close as you can. How far in that journey are you?

00;14;51;17 – 00;15;20;17

Jon & Aaron

Right. I was doing some heavy self assessment over the last couple weeks and then I was traveling. You’re gonna get into a lot of people and I see. But I was like, I think I’m about 20% and maybe maybe 20, maybe a little generous, but I think I’m 15 to 20% of who I could be. And that was humbling and exciting because it’s like, Wow, if I’m only 20% right now with all the effort I could putting in the last four years, what is 20 years from now going to look like?

00;15;21;00 – 00;15;40;09

Jon & Aaron

Maybe I’ll be in sixties 60% range, you know, And like, how cool would that be? And I think people want to over credit themselves on how much of their potential they get the best version of themselves. That’s why I mean, that potential you’re becoming the best version that you could be as an individual. I think they credit themselves as like our situation that we’re there.

00;15;40;23 – 00;16;04;08

Jon & Aaron

Plus, no, you’re not. And if you really look in the mirror, maybe you are. I highly doubt it. I think a very few people look incredibly to realize ever see but 50%. Yeah. And it’s to me what a cool pursuit because some of the great people that we’ve been seeing who have found success, it’s amazing how voracious they are.

00;16;04;10 – 00;16;22;29

Jon & Aaron

Knowledge. It’s like it’s almost it’s almost has a compounding effect in their life. Like they’re more voracious at 60 than they were at 40. And I my suspicion is that they they’ve grown an understanding of how much the gap of who they want to be is like an asset, like you’re staring America. It’s actually bigger than they thought.

00;16;22;29 – 00;16;44;02

Jon & Aaron

That’s okay. I like how you said it. That means I’m going to be really, really something someday. Yeah. Got. If you need the medicine of humility as much as you need motivation. Right. So when you get to do self assessments and you get both, that’s a hard pill to swallow and is a good for you. It is. And, you know, a conversation for a different day.

00;16;44;02 – 00;17;10;03

Jon & Aaron

Some of the other results last few weeks of medication, self inspection, all of myself to it. But you know looking at kind of the planning aspect was like, okay, we know that if you increase their failure rate, make it harder to do things you don’t want to do, therefore make it easier to do things you do want to do, or how can you plan or when should you plan be more focused pursuit of that?

00;17;10;03 – 00;17;29;15

Jon & Aaron

Right. I think that there’s two ideas. Pick something, whatever is in your mind that comes first. I think all of us have some music where my self right pick that item, whatever it is that intuitively comes and what is something you can commit to that when you choose that commitment for myself and I want you to before bed.

00;17;29;15 – 00;17;52;28

Jon & Aaron

I won’t lose it when I first wake up because before bedtime we just write water down, whatever my mind should be. And first thing in the morning or night, you know, first thing in the morning, I’m like, Take over the world. Yeah, territory. And I don’t need food, I don’t need water, don’t sleep. But whatever I choose in the morning is unsustainable throughout the day.

00;17;52;28 – 00;18;13;26

Jon & Aaron

Interact with it. So it’s like for me, what I found is to the best time for me to plan is midday. I’ve even now after lunch is great, right? Or right after right before lunch. You know, it’s great, depending on what the day’s like, you know, get some food, some fed. But I’m even keeled. I’m, you know, expended about half my energy on the day.

00;18;14;18 – 00;18;32;04

Jon & Aaron

Let’s plan what I want to commit to. There there again what is when is it best to plan when it’s easiest for you, right. Because you’re like, when is it easier for you? It’s like, well, it’s when I get rid of, you know, all the frenetic energy I have in the morning. And that’s not a good time to plan.

00;18;32;04 – 00;18;55;24

Jon & Aaron

I’ll be fighting. So why, why do that? You know, to myself, when you find that kind of perfect moment, that’s an easy time to plan. Great. It doesn’t have to be difficult. In fact, there’s no there’s no trophy for being difficult needlessly. You know, sometimes things have to be difficult. That’s and then you go through it, right? We don’t shy away from those things, but when they don’t have to be difficult, you make them.

00;18;55;24 – 00;19;17;22

Jon & Aaron

That’s stupid. It’s masochism. Yeah, but pain without purpose is masochism. Everything that we do, some some people think I’ve heard that. Some people think to me to introduce a leader crazy or weird, but it has a purpose, a very deliberate purpose. Right. And it provides us. Right, right, right. You know, it’s not masochism. It’s this will make us better, you know, And that’s cool.

00;19;17;22 – 00;19;43;16

Jon & Aaron

But you’re absolutely right. When is the best time that you will make a fair deal with yourself because you’re negotiating with yourself? You know, I know that my morning so is very nice and vice versa. Right? Right. The decisions those people make. Right, are not good. And I think we all multiple people and outsiders, it’s not like a schizophrenic sort of way or split personalities, but more in like a we have different motivations depending on when when are we open to suggestion more.

00;19;43;17 – 00;20;05;01

Jon & Aaron

Yeah, right. So it’s like, okay, pick a time where you’re fed, you’re not overly calmed or overly exhausted at that point. Do it fair trade with what you know. You can easily order stuff. You can I This is great. Yeah. Can I, can I ask you is I really want to know what are your what are some of the things that you do to make things easy.

00;20;05;01 – 00;20;27;16

Jon & Aaron

Yeah. What are some of the habits that you’ve been able to do and how did how did you start doing that? What made it part of the routine? I think this year’s really catalyzed what I think about my home routine. It’s committing to something consistently and longer than I would otherwise and deliberately making it less sexy than I want to when I first started out.

00;20;28;04 – 00;20;48;03

Jon & Aaron

So when I first think about anything, I want, right, I want to jump in. It’s like, Oh, I want to read more. So I’m going to do 20 pages and then I read 20 minutes and I’m like, Okay, 20 minutes at 20 pages a day is about 30, 40 minutes. That’s too much. So I don’t ten. Then I’ll go identify it for the next 50 days.

00;20;48;03 – 00;21;09;25

Jon & Aaron

I’m doing five pages a day period, right? Something like that. And, and that’s that midday negotiation. I’m making the transaction with myself. Right on. What will I commit to when I’m even keel when I’m in that best level state of mind? I know how I’m going to fill the evening. I know in the morning I’m pulling everything together and making a decision.

00;21;09;25 – 00;21;35;19

Jon & Aaron

All of myself to and I’m making it small enough that I can succeed because maybe the next challenge I can do ten pages and then 15 and 20, right? Instead of just the five. But. Right. I’m doing zero. So five. So win. Right. And that’s kind of the way I look at it. So it’s like something that’s incrementally, proportionally doable and then do it for at minimum 30 days or then a few 21 days.

00;21;35;19 – 00;21;59;14

Jon & Aaron

I think 35 it’s more challenging at second. Last nine days is kind of push you for at least 30 days, then reassess, reevaluate. Yeah, but there’s I guess the big thing I’ve come to is for myself and I’d love to hear your answer to the same question. There’s no sexy solution. There’s no simple there’s a simple solution. There’s no hack or quick.

00;21;59;14 – 00;22;31;07

Jon & Aaron

It’s discipline and consistency. Over time, you will create those things and then back to progressive overload. Once you’re done reword yourself, don’t cut out the reward. And once you’ve enjoyed the reward of doing it metaphorically. Yeah, that’s great. That’s I mean, that’s really great. So you’re making it so you make it a lot longer than comfortable knowing that, but making it a little harder than where you’re each time and then doing it for a long period of time.

00;22;31;17 – 00;22;53;16

Jon & Aaron

I thought of it like a set time, 30 days, commit, commit to something definitive that I can’t just let go, right? I have to do it. And one of the other things too, is deliberately inconvenient. And that’s good, right? It has to be. But some of these personal but the things I’m trying to develop at this point have to be inconvenient for what I do.

00;22;53;24 – 00;23;11;24

Jon & Aaron

And I think most of them are. If you make it, it’s not inconvenient. It’s not it doesn’t have to be like life stopping, but it has to be inconvenient. Agree? Yeah. All things, all things that are part of your normal rhythm are going to be intimate and they’re going to feel that way. Yeah, I would say the same thing to.

00;23;12;20 – 00;23;37;01

Jon & Aaron

Okay, convenience is convenience. To me, it’s synonymous with easy. So you have if I wanted to like from in the morning a number of years ago, I decided and even more deliberately last year I said I want to have intentional reading in the order. And there’s a couple things that I intentionally read that are kind of two different faculties in my mind that I need to exceed.

00;23;38;15 – 00;23;57;18

Jon & Aaron

And it’s not it’s not like an hour dude doing this. It’s just, I know I have to do it for at least 5 to 10 minutes every single morning in each of these areas. And so knowing that I need a couple of things. Well, if my morning if I wake up too late and I’m rushed, I won’t do it.

00;23;58;12 – 00;24;20;05

Jon & Aaron

So, I mean, they’ll wake up early and I give myself plenty of time. And that’s not scheduled for other things. This is it. I got to tell you something already. Like I like drinking coffee in the morning and I know I’m going to sit down and drink coffee. So all I’m most likely to listen to something while I’m drinking coffee.

00;24;20;11 – 00;24;41;02

Jon & Aaron

So even though I personally believe that’s a little better to do the physical, it’s better to listen to something and and understand it than I do it at all for me. But sometimes I’ll read in and do that too. But it’s tied to something I’m already doing already, and then I can do consistent every morning. I know I’m going to get up every morning.

00;24;41;08 – 00;25;05;08

Jon & Aaron

I’m going to drink coffee and at the end of the day, like just on the database, there is this mentality of like reading is the best form of advice is you’re consuming, you’re consuming it, right? Like, I know I struggle the same stuff, which is I comment on that. But but it’s interesting because as I was listening to you and then reflecting on my answer, you have to have some self-awareness to know how to set these things up to succeed.

00;25;05;15 – 00;25;39;07

Jon & Aaron

Yeah, it takes self study. So study yourself. You know, if you’ve not done a challenge before, you don’t really know how to do it. Pick something that you’re willing to commit to enforce function and just make it happen. No excuses, don’t answer it, do it right short of injury or some insane 1% reason that you have to. And instead of getting angry at yourself as you burn the stream once you’re doing it right, got it down, put it to memory.

00;25;39;19 – 00;25;57;29

Jon & Aaron

Realize what days of easy the four days are the easiest, most fulfilling, simplest for you to successfully succeed at your goal, which it most difficult. It’s easy to pick up some trends because one that’s a great practice period throughout all the rest of your life. Like that’s you know, I’m trying to do that now and I always want to keep doing that.

00;25;57;29 – 00;26;21;24

Jon & Aaron

But the other thing is like, especially if you’re unequipped with what you’re good at and not and if you do that, then you really position yourself to make a better, more effective goal. Like you said, you’ve probably try to read more a lot of times and over time you realize that the keys to success were to accomplish something like drink coffee and to at least ensure PICCIRILLO.

00;26;21;29 – 00;26;48;04

Jon & Aaron

So listen, and you learn that if I do that, I’ll do it. Yeah. Success. I download Audible. It’s all my phone is everywhere I go. And so now I can also redeem windshield time, you know, and drive. So I drive. I’m a ways out of the city. So that’s like that’s easy just to assess that. I to say to college 30 minutes every morning, you know, am I going to just thumb to the radio, Am I going to listen to whatever?

00;26;48;21 – 00;27;09;23

Jon & Aaron

Or can I be like, it’s right here. And and it’s something that initially just like jogging for the first mile. I don’t really want to do it at first. Yeah, but if I commit to it for just like a minute, I’m in and then I’ll stay on it. That’s easier to not change. Channel. That is such a such a great example and what a fun one.

00;27;10;01 – 00;27;37;09

Jon & Aaron

Right? But I used to listen to music exclusively. You know, technology has kind of given us some audible for books and podcasts and things that you can get rich and content that you and man, I love that mentality. Let’s regain when Showtime and what a great starting place. If you have no idea, if you have no idea on what you can do to begin improving, but you want to grow, you just know you want more reading your windshield time.

00;27;37;09 – 00;28;08;24

Jon & Aaron

If you’re listening to music, every time you try to set a goal where at least one leg of your daily drive is listening to a book or content rich self-development educational podcast right in. Because because I have the same experience as you. I gave up a few years back. I gave up one of my one length of my commute where I wouldn’t listen to music, I’d listen to a book or podcast, and over time that’s become maybe once every couple of months I listen to music and sometimes I don’t like music.

00;28;08;24 – 00;28;31;00

Jon & Aaron

We listen to what we trade, but it’s I’m so excited to get into the podcast books or pick up the phone and connect with someone while driving. That’s everyday. Me That windshield time has become such a time of thought, introspection, conversation, quitting. Yep, that’s such a great one. I’m glad it’s good. I’ve heard. I’ve heard in a book on habits.

00;28;31;10 – 00;28;51;10

Jon & Aaron

It was it monetized it and it was something like if you use that time to consistently listen to books or whatever, it’s something like the equivalent. By the end of the year, you’ll have done the equivalent of a semester and a half of college. Now based on like the average free time. Yeah, yeah. It adds up really quick.

00;28;51;10 – 00;29;11;12

Jon & Aaron

It really does. Yeah. It’s insane. It’s such a powerful tool. And, you know, looking back at a conversation, kind of like the show, what in retrospect, right. Can you can you walk into it with a pretty clear understanding? Our goal was to talk about how can you make things easier and the value of making some easy things hard.

00;29;11;26 – 00;29;47;19

Jon & Aaron

Right? And we engage in that. But I talk about mental progressive overload, you know, making things inconvenient for different purpose when and how you can set some goals to succeed. And then we’ve offered out of our mutual found love for redeeming windshield time as a great starting place. Yeah I it’s pretty good. Let’s stack the stack. What’s easy and the processes by which you can accomplish easy things in your favor for your future self today start planning.

00;29;47;23 – 00;30;03;24

Jon & Aaron

How do I make it easy to do the things that I would love to have in my life on a consistent basis? Yeah. If you. If we can find a way to improve 1% each day, it’s a 365% improvement for you. And that’s next. Three people.